If the only 'stupid' thing I said, was that you don't know anything about cars, then get over it. But as far as I'm concerned, a short ram is better than a CAI anyday. Look at the test this guy with a B18C did....

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-633.html

If your cross reference that information with the TPR article, how can you NOT come to the conclusion that short ram is better?

And how do you NOT know that longer, thinner intake piping makes for torque?

Monkey, thanks for the non-biased comments. Most Honda builder/owners tend to be snobbish..........