Originally posted by fastball
I suppose reading a book is unnatural as well. Get real.
I stated plain facts, not my opinion. IF you choose to take the facts and misconstrue them, and tell me that they are my opinions, you are very misguided. I see that with alot of the posts in this forum.
I was just taking the extremes of your examples. It has been many hundreds of years since humans obeyed any of the laws of nature. Good example: Natural selection is dead in humans.
I also find it no less strange than your thoughts that homosexuality is a choice. How can homosexuality be against nature when it is in nature? Humans are not the only species whose sexual tendencies are not restricted to the opposite sex!
Also, I didn't say that your 'facts' were an opinion, but the 'facts' you quote are of a very limited view. An actual fact that you might take into account are the dozens of experiments regarding homosexuals, trying to determine its origin. You'll be hard pressed to find one whose conclusion is that it is a concious choice.
Originally posted by fastball
The bottom line is that a persons attraction to the same sex (and I include women in this) goes against the natural chemical and biological building blocks EVERYONE is born with.
Homosexuality has been recorded throughout time. Read many of Shakespeare's sonnets? How about 141, first line is: "Shall I compare thee to a summer's day" Arguably the most famous love poem of the English language. It was written in reference to a young prince. This isn't a recent development, and certainly not a 'fad' of any nature.
I find it hard to agree with your thought that every human is built with a need to procreate. I have no desire to have children, myself, and don't plan on it unless it is my mate's desire. Also, can you find any proof that a heterosexual inclination is built in? Maybe we're all gay and 90% of the population has been brainwashed into by tradition, culture, and peer pressure into desiring the opposite sex. Before you say that is far fetched, you are insinuating the same thing about homosexuals, except in the current world culture, homosexuals are looked down upon, derided, and often in physical danger should the wrong person find out what they are. Would ANY human being willingly choose to join such a group?
One of the most basic parts of us (Which comes before sex and procreation in EVERY needs heirarchy ever made, by the way.) is the need to feel safe and feel loved. Who gives a shit if the person they fulfill this with has a penis or a vagina?
Originally posted by fastball
FYI, rape IS NOT a natural act...... human rage is taught and learned. It is not inherent.
Rape is an act of dominance and power, not anger. Again I mention that if it can be found in non-sentient animals, then how is it against nature?