Originally posted by fastball
Why is this such a sticking point with some people? Bush went by the intelligence brought to him, and this was processed over the last decade of Saddam's deceit of the UN. So mabe Bush should have presented his case to the public more on the side that we needed to remove Hussein of power because he was in fact an evil dicator rather than WMDs. Whether we find any now or not is pretty much a moot point. Hussein is finished, the regime is toast, and the speed at which we captured him and his goons surprised alot of people. The world is a safer place now...... we know he was actively looking for them and in the future would have used them. So even if none are found, I think the operation was a success if for anything it was preventive maintainace.
So we're going from the argument that he had WMD to he was looking for them ... and I still don't believe that warrants a war, a huge death count, and $87billion in aid.
Originally posted by DVPGSR
I can respect this argument but the intelligence changed little from Clinton to Bush and both believed the same, both acted on it albeit one more than the other.
True.
Originally posted by fastball
We did not invent hatred, and if we do nothing but sit back and hope our most imminent threats just stop being bad boys if we ask them to is not going to stop them. These animals know nothing but hatred, and the only way to stop them is to kill them. If there's even a blip on the radar screen that a regime is up to no good, or a group is looking to hit us hard, even if we don't have concrete evidence, we can't wait to see what might happen. There are parts of the world that don't know peace and will never be willing to strive for it. The only intent they have is to harm the innocent and continue invoking pain untill someone else bigger than them can stop them. The analogy I use is that the world is behaving very badly, and their own parrents can't take care of or control their juvenile delinquents..... that's when police and child services are called. We have to be the police to the world now, since they can't behave on their own.
Im glad our own judicial system isn't
that bad. With that mentatlity, we'll be at war forever. Sure, we didn't invent hatred, but we're not helping alleviate the issue.
Originally posted by DVPGSR
Hatred for America was here long before Bush took office.
Also true, but why should we intensify it?
Originally posted by fastball
And when it comes down to it, they hate us for our prosperity, our ways of life, our religious freedoms, and peace we have among our people and ourselves. I'd say those are worth fighting anyone for, aren't they?
Austrailia and Sweden is the same way ... do you see them flying planes into Sydney harbor? They don't hate us because we live differently - they hate us because we don't let them live differently. The more we stretch our wings out and try to control the rest of the world, the more its going to fight back. US Imperialism is what they hate, not our Bill of Rights.
Interesting to see how this turns out but I also wouldnt be surprised if this was a response from the Bush Administration for the fact that article was on CNN.com in the first place.