Ya, I think asiandood posted about how you can bend those DC bars with your bare hands... not really "quality" stuff.

I have both the bars listed above. Just to show you how strong the upper front neuspeed one is, I had my D15B7 hanging from it for about 6 months and when I finally took the motor out, the bar wasn't bent or anything. I highly recommend them.

http://www.nopionline.com/index.cfm?...0Bar/Tie%20Bar