i had the EVO on my 5th gen, it is sitting in my garage right now. as for the CL/TL type S exhaust......im going to be looking for a 4 cylinder (wont be hard to find at all) b/c i cant stand auto's. i drive them all day at Lexus and it just kills me. My 5th gen was a manual as well as my sisters 6th gen coupe. Do you have to get the two mufflers and then do custom piping, or did you get the entire catback and modify it as needed. I know there is no difference between the rear bumpers for the v6 and 4cylinder, but what about underneath. are the hangers still there for the exhaust?