I do know of one concept car they designed for us in 1984 that was truly hideous, but some elements lived to the CRX and NSX. Design is so hard nowadays, because everything down to the Hyundai Tiburon has it. Back in 1989? **** man, the only thing with good design was Ferrari, Lambo, and Porsche (but theirs was classic). But we'll have this discussion when we get some solid info instead of bull**** from Motor Trend and the such ("500 HP V8 by Fall 2002!"). The funny thing is, the NSX is still one of the prettiest cars I've ever seen IMO...Honda knows how to make a timeless design. Look at a Lambo Countach...IMO those things are fugly.