so what you're saying is they didn't manufacture LS with VTEC? On the contrary, I live in the boonies of NJ and it's hard finding a good deal that isn't a 1 hour + drive. I found the one GSR, which is about a 3 hour + round trip. Since this will be my first car and I'm only 16, my dad will be making the final decision in my purchase. So I need to give him some good aspects of looking at this car because he's already turned me down due to the far drive. Basically it all comes down to the condition of the car, the price of it, and whether it's everything I need. So give me some advice and pointers about GSR vs. LS. Thanks