naw, i wasnt killed by the civic (it wasnt stock either). but it was on streets, and he was being a little agressive and i was being a little smart. he never beat me, but he was always with me the whole time, i thought the exact same thing... "why am i not killing this guy?" so its making me wonder just what i should expect. is there some place where i can just bring up the data on whatever i want to see?