ty CivicSiRacer & MaxBoosT for the info so no matter what they say about putting on aftermarket parts its BS then i guess as long as that part is not the direct cause of the problem and they can prove it. So i should be fine installing and intake and exhaust then . Another question though do i get intake and exhaust done by Honda or should i take it to a speed shop. Do u know of any good speed shops in the area of NYC/LI/Westchester Co.?