on one hand i would love to join you guys in bashing GM and Ford, but frankly i dont see a market for hybrids, and i dont blame them for ignoring that niche. i think honda and toyota have yet to see a profit on hybrids, and will likely struggle in the market for a while despite the lack of competition.

besides, whats the point? 20 mpg? cmon that still sucks. its better, but if i were in the market of a $40,000 tahoe or whatever, i probably wouldnt spend $6000 on a hybrid system if it was going to save me only 25% of my gas. that means that if i go 100,000 miles, i would only save about $2300. and thats in exchange for extra weight and complexity. hybrid systems should be implemented on commuter cars, not SUVs. of course, considering that in this country SUVs are commuter cars, its a moot point.

ugh, im sorry but driving 30 minutes to work everyday in a 6000 pound truck is STUPID. and ive gone off topic so ill end my rant here.