:thinking: umm it is a simple fact that we have little displacement... nothing rice about that mentality... just reality. And I didn't say I bought Honda's for their great powerband, I said I am more concerned with improving the powerband then improving the appearance of my light patterns.:ghey:

What's so great about it is the ratio of HP per liter that our Hondas can put out. I'd like to see a 5.0 rated at 100 HP per liter of displacement from the factory... that would be an amazing 500 HP... Now a honda on the other hand like my H22 is rated at 100 HP per liter which is an amazing accomplishment for a 4 cylinder motor... and no I'm not talking WHP here. We may lack the torque but our wieght off sets that.

All I'm saying is more go less show... I bought my Honda for performance reasons... I like to tune not play dress up:db: