What I ment to say was Acura service and sales are different than Honda's. They are all excellent cars that provide exceptional value. Case in point, many new college grads that I work with bought the new 4dr Accord for graduation or to celebrate their 1st real job. Nice cars, good power, well equipted. For about the same money as a loaded V-6 Accord they could have had the TSX with a six speed tranny and a more visceral driving expirence plus the personal service, 5/50,000 mile warranty and presitge of owning one of America's top luxury vehicles. So I feel the value is in Acura.