I don't mean to be mean or sarcastic :naughty: (seriously)

The Honda dealer had no problem identifying the problem immediately. They just knew what it was when I told them the symptoms.

My sarcastic remark was not really directed at people on this board, but to those on another board who are much more into fixing all kinds of things on their cars themselves. They DO have a lot of knowledge about Honda products and I've LEARNED a lot from reading on that board.

My reply is to all in the hope that next time someone has a problem that is similar, they may find the solution. I'm posting this as a solution to try to help people.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm a real n00b as far as Honda is concerned. This is my first Honda and I don't work on my cars myself anymore ('cept oil, filter, pcv valve changes). Getting too old and I'm too busy with other things. When I was younger, I used to work on 65 and 68 Plymouths and 65 Dodges I could take them apart and put them back together again, but you see how backdated I am.

It's all good, peace!