I am a little confused......I have read/heard that these are a stock replacement and therefore ride very similarly to stock........but you say they are a lot stiffer.......:dunno: I was thinking about getting these also (with H&R OE's), so the drop is not a problem, but I don't want a super stiff ride. Like the original poster, I am looking for something inexpensive but of decent quality - daily driver with no racing, auto x, etc........just some spirited street driving.