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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by NoRiCeHeRe
Your telling me to grow up, take your own advise. Like I said before you can believe what you want. I am cool with that. But you answered my question on a "scientifical" level, this thread is about a "spritual" question. So thanks for the biology lession and I know much more now about sexuality then I did before. But science can't answer everything. :thumbup:
you're telling me to grow up and you're the one bashing my beliefs. Exactly how mature is that? you are a bigot in the purest sense of the word. the first settlers came to this country to get away from people such as yourself that had too much power.

Originally posted by 18secFerio
again, true, but why does coincidence automaticlly mean disorder?
on that note does it mean order in any way? you have your beliefs.. i have mine.

just because you've lost your touch with an ordered reality doesn't mean its not.
i haven't lost touch with anything.. i have a firm grasp on reality.. not some imaginary friend or "entity"

funny thing is, although you don't beleive in god, you just discribed him in the same way I beleive in him......
however, i don't believe that there is some key aura or whatever that holds all life together. that is where we differ

here's a problem with science:

it breaks down the processes of life so simply to the point where it loses all warmth and love.
warmth and love are human emotions.. there is nothing divine about them. you draw warmth and love from the people around you. there is nothing metaphysical to it. as i stated before they are just human emotions.

technology and science is what is undoing us. But its there. Evolution, while most religions disregard it, is still true, I feel.
your opinion.. i disagree.

however, that does not mean there's no god, and no afterlife. People think that if the answers not there, there's simply nothing. These are the same people who demand proof, and thats selfish. No one deserves to know their own fate, and no one will. So yes, there won't be super-dramatic-in-your-face-proof of God, or afterlife, or any of that shit.
yes, but your statement implies that there is in fact proof. where is this proof? is it along the same lines as your WMD in iraq theory? there hasn't been any proof lately that they are still there so there aren't any?

you just have to have faith. Not in christ, or muhammad, but something other than yourself. You're just a small fish in a huge-ass sea. You're insignifacant, and nothing. Accept it and grow.
i do have faith.. i have faith that there is no higher power or something that binds all life together or whatever it is that you personnaly believe. i do believe that you are correct when you say that we are just a small fish in a giant sea and are insignificant. you are absolutely correct there.

because you may think you're in control, and you know what? You genereally are. But thats not always the case.
yes i am.. and your statement signifies what i feel is wrong with society. we as a society seek to place blame on something or someone other than ourselves when something goes wrong. i know i'm guilty of it from time to time. the problem is the idea of responsibility in the general populous has all but gone away but that's another discussion all together.

how sad it must be to live in your shoes. You must have gotten alot of shit, be it from a parent or a sibling or maybe even your peers. Get over it. Move on. Being full of contempt will get you nowhere. Open up.
it's not sad at all. it's actually quite fulfilling. i had a very normal childhood. i have a very normal life with a very normal family. i don't have contempt for religion or spirituality, i simply choose not to believe in these things. take it as it is stated and stop trying to read into it.

Humble yourself and open up to higher possiblity. Because assholes like you are what will keep humans in the same shit we've been in. You're gonna make my life harder....
humble myself? why don't you do the same and denounce your beliefs. i didn't think so.

way to result in namecalling when you don't get your way or don't have the aural capacity to get your point across. :goodjob: please explain exactly how it is that i'm gonna make your life harder.

the fact still remains that i do not believe in a god or whatever you want to call it. i am comfortable with that path and i will be the fist to step up and say "hey.. i was wrong" if i am.. and IMO that's a big if. so please, save the bible thumper attitude and have a legitimate discussion without namecalling or saying "i feel sorry for you" am i gonna sway your beliefs by calling them fairy tales or mythology? probably not. so give me the same courtesy.