I do sympathize with you, Mayo, and no it's not illogical. I think if Detroit had done this on their own, it really would be an emotional victory. As if to say, "hey, we can do it just like Germany and Japan". But, it's not a real dissapointment, either. GM has owned Holden for decades, the profits ends up in Detroit in the end, and it's still a good thing for the General. I just read last month they had their best fiscal quarter in almost 5 years. And it will only get better from here. So I guess the bottom line is not how you get it done, just get it done.