btw, don't let my bad spelling deter you from listening to me. I'm in a hurry to get idea's out, and you know.....
Originally posted by axemansean
I don't believe in the existence of something that is not tangible. I haven't seen God, nor have I seen pictures of God and you can say that I'll see God when I die. What good does that do to me.
People can say God is this and God is that. Well its their belief and opinion and they are entitled to it.
ok. This is a long read. I know its a
very long read, but if you actually care, you'll read it. If you study philosophy or anything similar, you'll read similar excerts, where two minds sit there and talk out a problem. Here's my retort.
cliffs notes - Sure, we don't 'see' god, but alas, we do:
Nonchalant Rage: aol probs?
Sr Flojo 1: ok, either aol sucks, or this computer has shit for memory
Sr Flojo 1: I'm thinking the latter
Nonchalant Rage: are you not on your usual comp?
Sr Flojo 1: yup, 64 megs
Sr Flojo 1: eh, its my dads comp, so I don't care
Sr Flojo 1: mines been out of commission for a while, fried the cpu/motherboard
Sr Flojo 1: I'll agree aol sucks
Sr Flojo 1: but it doesn't totally suck
Sr Flojo 1: ever ISP is good and bad
Sr Flojo 1: every*
Nonchalant Rage: eh i use cable
Nonchalant Rage: when cables out
Nonchalant Rage: i dial in to pdq
Nonchalant Rage: works perfect
Nonchalant Rage: eh, i suppose
Sr Flojo 1: lol, I don't need cable/dsl
Sr Flojo 1: hard to say, really
Sr Flojo 1: there's a whole debate behind this
Nonchalant Rage: whyso?
Sr Flojo 1: there's good and bad to everything, so you'd have to break alot of things down
Sr Flojo 1: lol, I had an epiphany the other night and its totally effected my life
Sr Flojo 1: I'm starting to force myself to be unbiased
Sr Flojo 1: sucks, but I feel better because of it
Sr Flojo 1: 3rd times a charm
Nonchalant Rage: theres really no bad to cable
Nonchalant Rage: fast as shit
Nonchalant Rage: hardly ever down
Nonchalant Rage: only costs 30 bucks
Sr Flojo 1: maybe, but I don't pay for my ISP
Sr Flojo 1: I piggy back off my folks :-p
Nonchalant Rage: unbiased towards what?
Nonchalant Rage: i do too :-P
Sr Flojo 1: shit, everything, really
Sr Flojo 1: bah, well, thats you're circumstances :-p
Sr Flojo 1: yeah, I'm just trying to push myself twords whatever I'm doing
Sr Flojo 1: not really sure what it is, tho
Nonchalant Rage: yeah...youre not really making much sense
Nonchalant Rage: and the sense you are making is ambiguous
Nonchalant Rage: lol
Sr Flojo 1: true, but ambiguity is life
Sr Flojo 1: everything is the same, just generalizations with different details
Sr Flojo 1: maybe I'm a minor prophet
Sr Flojo 1: thats about the only thing I can think
Sr Flojo 1: but that seems egotistical
Nonchalant Rage: no, dont flatter yourself
Sr Flojo 1: lol
Sr Flojo 1: I know
Sr Flojo 1: thats why I said minor
Sr Flojo 1: the things I think arn't widely accepted
Sr Flojo 1: Honda-Acura.net - bash my beleifs.... (in depth religious debate)
Nonchalant Rage: yay my new phones is done rechargign
Sr Flojo 1: sweet
Sr Flojo 1: see, god and religion are important to me, but not in the traditional sense
Sr Flojo 1: I mean, I was born catholic, but I'm liberal
Sr Flojo 1: read that thread, and soon refresh it, since I'm about to post another post
Nonchalant Rage: liberal catholic ;-)
Sr Flojo 1: lol, jumbo shrimp :-p
Sr Flojo 1: oxymorons
Sr Flojo 1: analogy's
Nonchalant Rage: exactly
Sr Flojo 1: things of the sort are important
Nonchalant Rage: i think im going to mess with my phone
Nonchalant Rage: lol
Nonchalant Rage: HAHA
Nonchalant Rage: it has a screensaver that says
Sr Flojo 1: lol, yeah, I'll get you thinking too much
Nonchalant Rage: "be safe be courteous"
Sr Flojo 1: still, its good words
Sr Flojo 1: but the thing is, safe and courteous don't really have defined things
Sr Flojo 1: its different to everyone
Sr Flojo 1: see what I'm saying about unbiased now?
Nonchalant Rage: yeah
Sr Flojo 1: like, you may drive fast, but that doesn't mean you're unsafe
Nonchalant Rage: universal truths
Sr Flojo 1: exactly
Nonchalant Rage: what exactly is unsafe...
Sr Flojo 1: without thought
Nonchalant Rage: is it?
Sr Flojo 1: not looking at the situation and making the proper conclution
Sr Flojo 1: like, you can get away with speeding sometimes, but not always
Nonchalant Rage: ya
Nonchalant Rage: goddamn this phone pwns hard
Sr Flojo 1: lol, **** a cell phone :-p
Sr Flojo 1: I hate them
Sr Flojo 1: jmo
Nonchalant Rage: mmhmm
Sr Flojo 1: eh, and again, this is personal opinion
Sr Flojo 1: but I don't think anyone is really that important
Sr Flojo 1: sure, they're convienient
Sr Flojo 1: very convienient
Sr Flojo 1: but they'll give you brain tumors
Sr Flojo 1: and cause accidents, shit like that
Nonchalant Rage: so do cars :-P
Sr Flojo 1: people with cell phones worry more about popularity than anything else
Nonchalant Rage: they both look cool
Sr Flojo 1: true
Sr Flojo 1: eh, cars are more function
Sr Flojo 1: I don't need a cell phone when I can use a pay phone
Sr Flojo 1: but we don't need cars when we can use busses
Nonchalant Rage: mmhmm
Sr Flojo 1: see, the whole of society is wrong
Sr Flojo 1: everything it comprises of
Sr Flojo 1: granted, the things are great
Sr Flojo 1: I mean, tv, internet, shit like that?
Sr Flojo 1: its awsome
Sr Flojo 1: but we **** it up
Nonchalant Rage: of course
Nonchalant Rage: were human
Sr Flojo 1: humanity needs to accept the fact that its imperfect, and we need to learn how to associate that into our lives
Sr Flojo 1: mostly about learning lessons, I guess
Sr Flojo 1: no one does anymore
Sr Flojo 1: and no one cares about God anymore
Nonchalant Rage: i dont think humans think theyre perfect
Sr Flojo 1: its just about themselves
Sr Flojo 1: sure they do
Sr Flojo 1: bush inc. thinks they're perfect
Sr Flojo 1: they think only they are right
Sr Flojo 1: most religions feel the same
Sr Flojo 1: christians think only they are right
Sr Flojo 1: imports think domestics are stoopid
Sr Flojo 1: and vice versa
Nonchalant Rage: but it isnt to the point of perfection
Nonchalant Rage: you might think youre right
Sr Flojo 1: well, perfection is God
Sr Flojo 1: all good and evil
Sr Flojo 1: the thing is, we're all God
Sr Flojo 1: we're all equal
Sr Flojo 1: but we don't consider ourselves equal
Sr Flojo 1: we're the same level as jesus is
Sr Flojo 1: and we all have the ability to be like him
Sr Flojo 1: or muhhmad
Sr Flojo 1: or budha
Sr Flojo 1: but our flaw makes us do what we want
Nonchalant Rage: how are we the same level as jesus
Sr Flojo 1: well, we all love
Nonchalant Rage: he was the messiah in the flesh
Sr Flojo 1: metaphoriclly
Sr Flojo 1: we're all jesus
Sr Flojo 1: we can all love as much as him
Sr Flojo 1: but only we can choose if we do or not
Sr Flojo 1: the miricals and shit? we all see miricals in our lives
Sr Flojo 1: we all do amazing feats
Sr Flojo 1: but they're taylored to ourselves
Sr Flojo 1: see what I'm saying? making sense?
Nonchalant Rage: well
Nonchalant Rage: i mean they arent nessecarily miracles
Sr Flojo 1: define mircales?
Sr Flojo 1: see, people think traditionally
Sr Flojo 1: they think big
Sr Flojo 1: miricals happen every day
Sr Flojo 1: example:
Sr Flojo 1: the other day while I was on a delivery at work, I was going out to my car after I dropped off the pizza
Sr Flojo 1: well, I noticed on my car there was a moth on my grill
Sr Flojo 1: right in the middle, kinda facing up down (head at top)
Sr Flojo 1: so basiclly, it was deviding my grill in half
Sr Flojo 1: well, thing is, I noticed something similar a few weeks ago
Sr Flojo 1: a dead moth was on my grill
Sr Flojo 1: same place, same position
Sr Flojo 1: well, back to the original point, I went to remove the bug from the grill
Sr Flojo 1: it was still alive, so I was pretty hyped about that.
Sr Flojo 1: as I get in my car, I see this pontiac speed by
Sr Flojo 1: we're in a residential area, small-ass road
Sr Flojo 1: well, I'm like "asshole should have slowed down" as I go to pull out
Sr Flojo 1: but I pulled out without checking my blind spot
Sr Flojo 1: so you may ask yourself, whats the point of this?
Sr Flojo 1: well, if I hadn't moved that moth
Sr Flojo 1: I would have gotten plowed by the pontiac
Sr Flojo 1: and it probably would have been my fault
Sr Flojo 1: that my friend is a mirical
Sr Flojo 1: and a mirical is nothing but coincidence
Nonchalant Rage: maybe you wouldve checked
Sr Flojo 1: watch the movie "Magnolia"
Sr Flojo 1: maybe?
Sr Flojo 1: who knows
Sr Flojo 1: but as it stands, I didn't
Sr Flojo 1: the problem is we get hypothetical
Nonchalant Rage: ive seen the movie
Sr Flojo 1: the reality is I wouldn't have checked
Sr Flojo 1: I know I wouldn't have
Nonchalant Rage: be more careful when you drive
Sr Flojo 1: sorry, I was afk
Sr Flojo 1: and thats too easy of a solution for myself
Sr Flojo 1: maybe for someone else, on the other hand
Nonchalant Rage: yeah
Sr Flojo 1: oh well, thats enough for me
Sr Flojo 1: sorry to make you read all that :-p