yeah dude, if you going to pay that much for a brand new civic, and if interest rates are really that low, you might as well spring for the base RSX or even the Type-S, ESPECIALLY since you have then intention to modify. just a thought.

i think the 2k4 civic is basically the same, in terms of chassis and stuff, I think they just changed the facia's and left everything else underneath the skin the same, so exhausts and what not will be the same.