Were more hating on the owner than the cars.

As for Toyota aside from the Supra which is a fucking monster, maybe the MR2 (although I don't care for them at all), Toyota doesn't really make anything special. Honda has them beat for just about any 4 cylinder car. I highly doubt a V6 Camry is any faster than a V6 Accord (not that it matters, who the **** races those things). I've driven many Toyotas and none of them surprised me how fast they were except the Avalon which seemed a lot quicker than I would have expected it to be. But the Corolla was slow as ****, and the Camry is not that fast either. My Civic is definitely faster than a stock Corolla or Camry.

However none of these cars are as painfully slow as anyone on that forum makes them out to be.

I'm just waiting until a Supra at work needs a road test :rick: