the michelins that came w. my car also gave way to traction in the rain, spinning me out of control. I recovered only to be facing the opposite way i was goin in the same lane. There wasnt anybody around thank god, but it was still scary as $#itt. ne wayz, i cant really recommend any brand of tire, because i put on kumho supras or whatever when one of my tires went flat. they handle great on dry roads, wet roads, but havent tried them in winter yet. if you're running 17's in the snow (which u really shouldnt because of all the nasty salt), then you're prolly not gonna get any traction control really. the reason being is that 17's tend to be a little on the fat side, causing you to ride ON the snow instead of IN. you want as much rubber as you can get to SINK thru the snow and touch the ground. use your factory wheels because they're more likely to be skinnier than most performance wheels, and get whatever tires these other guys recommend. having lived up in ALASKA for 8 years, i learned alot about how to drive in the snow (though never driven up there, my parents always gave me advice.)