BTW clickwhir....you say we are beating nature in your original comment......how do you figure this?

nature is what is killing us...we are indeed beating it but I don't think its in the way you are trying to imply. If we were truly beating nature we would have cured disease, stopped all fires/floods..and in general any natural disaster from ever happening.

In trying to control nature we have only proven that it cannot be controlled.

Waterways get levees to change the flow...the levees break so regularly that its not even funny.

People build on mountainsides...rock and mudslides wipe them out.

People take medicines to cure ills that were caused by previous medicines taken by their parents or themselves.

Yeah we have made some limited medical advancements, minimal ecological advancements...but nature can and will own humans every time they think they have a leg up.