Originally posted by DakarM
and the point that you missed about the 1-series is that it is a cheaper BMW not a cheap car.
which is obviousy to some people which you didn't get 
i can't recall anyone ever saying BMWs are cheap car.
It's "obviousy" to me, I'm still not reaching you, which is fine. I'm not going to argue semantics here, but like I said before, my one and ONLY point was that this will not be a cheap BMW. Cheaper? Sure. No one said it will be a "cheap" car. But some 16 yr. old kid reading this board thinking he'll get into a new Beemer at 23k sticker is kidding himself. No-option BMW's are rarer than the Dodo bird. (To those who can't detect sarcasm, I'm exaggerating again)