i broke both of em off on my integra with a breaker bar.. we tried everything to get em loose and it wasnt going anywhere.. turned a 2 hour project into a 24 hour project.. and i dunno about you guys, but you can't get that stud anywhere but the honda dealer.. we even had a drill press and while drilling through one of the bolts we snapped a drill bit off inside the stud. talk about a pain in the ass.. good luck man.