btw, any of you right wingers get bored, do me a favor and tear this appart.... I need to work on my arguments.
Originally posted by 18secFerio
you can't have these threads without some bickering. The only solution to that is not posting 
But the artical was rather sickening to me. I can't beleive how many idiots there are out there who think 2+2=5, but hey....
regardless, I think there's a fundamental flaw within american society. The problem is no one in power wants to be truthful and honest. Probably because that means they give up some of their power. Good ol' honest human corruption. Enron/worldcom, anyone?
I think the biggest issue is the central government. They're juggling too many pins at once, and keep dropping them. If they're not fumbling on the defense budget, its the economy/employment. And if its not that, its education. And now we have a war on terror, which is a quagmire in its own, let alone the war in iraq/afganistan. Clearly, we are heading up shit creek without anything to row with.
one solution would be to weaken the central government of its control over the people, and instead turn that control over to the states. Let the central govern. work on external measures, such as the war on terror, etc. I mean, techniclly, they should only be dealing with whats in the constitution, anyways. Isn't that how the country was set up?
doing so would allow the freeing up of much manpower in the central government, allowing politicans to better understand what they're doing. Talking with my father (whom is a republican, and a savvy one at that) brings light to me that our leaders don't totally know what they're doing, and its understood. Take bush for example. I know he's not the brightest light bulb out there, but he's a rally point, ya know? I'll respect that much. I remember when he went into office, I was at least happy he had a cabnet of people whom were respectable. People like Powell, Rice, Rummy, etc.
unfortunatly, it seems his cabnet is screwing him. Or they're screwing us, anyways. Both patriot acts are so rediculous, its not even funny. You guys made a point about profiling the arabs/people from the middle east. Honestly, I see no problem in profiling non-citizens. If someone from pakistan is in american and wants to flight, seach him till the cows come home. Pull out the latex glove and forget the lub.
but the fact that airport security will ask a 70 year-old woman if they can search her to make sure she won't blow up/take over the plane is rediculous. Isn't reenfoced doors and armed pilots enough? I'm telling you, if another attack happens to us from airplanes going into buildings, it will be a cold day in hell.
gee, wonder why the airline industry is in a downturn....
but what it boils down to is our constitution rights as citizens.
Or maybe the fact that if I go to a spurs game, I get searched. And check this out. Its not because they're worried about bombs and terror. Sure, thats the reason they imply, but further talks with the head of PR for the spurs (yah, one of the big wigs. again, through my fathers connection) shows that they're not the least bit concerned about terror, so much as people sneaking in drinks/food.
dear god, its about profit!!!! but who's surprized....
I think this goes back to public education, and selective learning. Let me bring back my "why do they call this a 'democracy' when it isn't" argument. Clearly, they're telling us half-truths. Sure, we live in a slightly democratic society, but anyone with a brain knows we live in a republic. I mean, if talking heads on CNN and FNC and even politicians keep telling us that we live in a democracy (I don't think I've heard/read anyone saying we don't, which is a shock to me), then why is it a surprise that all this iraq/al queda confusion continues without correction?
I mean, its just the snowball effect building up and up until one day, something happens (like the tet offense, which changed everyones opinion on vietnam), and then everyone gets left dumbfounded and agasp.
I think there's alot more to our problems the sept 11th, '01 and terrorism and Iraq. Our society is getting out of control. We need changes within the system, but the liklyhood of that happening is slim to nil, short of the second coming of christ.
God, I wish there was an easier way to change things....