it's 490. My brother listens to them. Do these people every have happy songs? I mean seriously, get some good buddhist info to read, it's like they go through life thinking the world is against them and they can't change a thing. I understand their expressing themselves through music but if that's all they have to express then maybe they need to take a hiatus for a little bit? :dunno: Instead of being against everything or for something why not just live?