by the way i almost forgot, I read the petition and i think it's overkill. I mean go to ford or chevy and see what they do about their tranmission problems after you factory warr. is up. I do agree it has hurt loyal cust. of the brand. I will not personally own a Honda with a automatic transmission. However I think that those ppl complianing don't know how good they have it. Maybe they should go buy another brand, those are the same ppl who cry about anything on the car until the warr. period is over then they go to chuck's independent shop for the work that's not free.