I can drink to that, they aren't the best used, but still decent. The 5's are really solid, my buddy drives an 85 528 thats stick and has yet to make any major repairs other than to replace the cooling fan and I think the clutch. Im just bitter about my 7 series taking a dump on me I went and bought an 88 toyota corolla for 1200 dollars with 180k miles on it that runs better and is less expensive than the bimmer and I only drive that to work and stuff because its so damn reliable. The bimmer will be the weekend car until I sell them both for something I really want.