clinton had the two embassy bombings, I guess the first world trade center even though it wasn't a major deal, oklahoma city, and the marine base. That = 5
bush has had the second world trade center, pentigon, bali bombing, iraqi embassy, the iraqi oil line, anthrax in the mail, a virginia sniper (almost two, but the second's drug related). That = 7, and I'm sure theres some shit I'm forgetting, so there's probably more than that.
Bombing of the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia in which 19 America soldiers were killed and hundreds wounded by Osama bin Laden. 372 wounded
TWA Flight 800 exploded and crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on its way from New York to Paris. all dead
The U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, were bombed by terrorists, leaving 258 people dead and more than 5,000 injured.
Terrorism strikes and almost sinks the Destroyer USS Cole in Yemen.17 dead 37 wounded
1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured
1,000
1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five US military personnel
Oklahoma City Bombing, which sources say may have had middle eastern ties. 31 dead, between 150 and 200 injured, and 140 missing.
so that's 9 during the clinton era, 4 of which you conveniently omitted for sake of argument.
true, but under clintons watch, we didn't lose 3000 american civilians. I'm sure if we had, things would have been a tad bit different. Concur?
703 dead and 6609 wounded. isn't that enough of a wake up call?
well, if I were president, I would remove my troops from foreigne countrys and bring them home, I would reaffirme my beleif in the UN, and I would have this country become pasifistic once more.
thank whatever diety you hold dear that you are not president. we practiced isolationism up until WW2 where we tried to stay out of the fight altogether. what happened? Pearl Harbor was annihlated and the Lucitania was sunk. this country was attacked, unprovoked, and if we try isolationism again the same thing will probably happen. war will escalate around us and we will have no choice but to join the fray. personally i'm all for a skirmish here and there in an isolated theatre if it means we don't have to fight a war on a global scale.
true, but terrorist DO understand equallity, fairness, and demands.
IE, Isreal/palistine: The palistinians want prisoners removed from jails, the isreals keep refusing, or removing a fraction of the prisioners that have been there for "wrong reasons." Of course, maybe isreal had all reasons to jail them, but isreal has clearly shown they are as far from right as the palistinians.
Because isreal beleives they should stay in jail, palistinans get pissed and strap bombs to their chest. Then the "road map" falls apart.
If only isreal sucked up its pride, and actually did what it should have, then there would be one more bus in the west bank.
poor example. if you are convicted of a crime in a country that is not your own you are subject to that country's punishments as well. basically what you are suggesting here is that israel turn thousands of prisoners loose into the streets and everything will magically fix its self. overe here in reality thing's don't work that way.
your right, and your wrong.
we still have enemy empires. North Korea comes to mind.
em·pire ( P ) (mpr)
n.
A political unit having an extensive territory or comprising a number of territories or nations and ruled by a single supreme authority.
please explain how north korea is an empire?
simple. Pull out of iraq.
blame bush, he got us into this mess. Its called putting gasoline on the fire.
exactly how did bush get us into "this mess"? the track record clearly shows that these terrorist attacks have been happening since before GW even considered running for president.
another thing. what is it that you think pulling out of iraq would accomplish? it's a bit late in the game to decide we don't want to play anymore. like it or not we're in it for the duration, whatever the outcome.
but the UN didn't even want a war with Iraq in the first place. Or do you not remember that We didn't show them convincing enough evidence, which most of it was false. Irony.....
we didn't show them convincing enough evidence for france/germany/russia to pull out of their business deals with iraq. all 3 countrys with veto power in the UN, do you really think that the UN would've acted differently in any other situation?
actually, it hurts the US more than the Iraqi's. We're more dependent on their oil than they are.
actually.. not true. the amount of oil that we get from iraq is minimal. most actually comes from good ol USA(imagine that)saudi and kuwait, followed by venezuela and a few other south american countries.
oh, come on. I can't beleive you. if something isn't there, how can you say it truly exists?
on that same note how can you say it doesn't? there's the other side of your "coin" that you keep forgetting about.
It appears to me everyone who attacks me and my idea's is the same typical bible-thumping, gun-totting conservative. You're all the same. hicks. But thats just my irrational opinion.
the reality is that you're conservative because you don't like to form your own thoughts. Its the same reason you're a bible thumper.
the same can be said of liberals being granola eating, tree hugging, hippies.
personally i am in no way a bible thumper. that's an impossibility for an athiest, but thanks for the generalization. your ignorance shines through.
Now, thats not to say I think the bible is wrong. There's alot of ideaology that's very true. The Koran also speaks the same basic principals. As do most major religions. Rights and wrongs, moral coding. The true pricipals of God
But the truth is God didn't write the bible, and that alot of things in it arn't acurate. Why, because man wrote it, and man is anything but perfect.
can't argue with you there. the principles taught in each are very good... but how they are used through interpretation is where we fall short.