I agree I've got all the tie bars you can buy other than the C-pillar bar and there isn't really a noticeable difference in the cars handling.Don't get me wrong I'm sure they do what they're supposed to when I'm autoXing but I went with Suspension Techniques front and rear sway bars and noticed more.I disconnected my front sway bar and now my car reacts the way I want it too but at first spooked me on more than one occasion as it tends to oversteer now.Bottom line buy a rear sway bar or if you don't have the money disconnect the front one just be careful!!!I wouldn't bother with tie bars unless they're just for show or you've done everytheing else in your suspension.