this is a little late in the thread, but why all of the sudden are b16a's so "gay"....seems like these days unless you have a 20psi boosted b20vtec your car is gay. Maybe some people like the appeal of the b16a because they arent loaded and they are looking for a nice upgrade that will change their car characteristics. just my two cents but I am sick of people bashing engines...its and engine for petes sake. any honda engine can be made sweet end of story.