i had no idea that alpine put such low pre amp outs....
but i got to give them props for the 60 x 4
mine is 45x4 but 7.5v out...


If you listen to MP3's a lot, or you just want to have 1 disc instead of 10, then get the one with mp3's. if you really dont need the mp3's and want the better looking design and save some money while you are at it, get that.

Thats why I would choose pioneer....they look the best and have great features.

I need a balance of function and form, one cant out weight the other by an enourmous amount....



Have you looked at the Pioneer DEH-P740MP?
Same price range I think.