Mid size is a broad range, I consider A6, E class, 5 class, Lexus ES, GS Lincoln LS, Jag S class all are in the midsize as well>>>

Which is exactly why I specified mid-class. Cars in this category include the Taurus, Altima, Accord, Camry, Malibu, Century, etc.. NONE of which have the rich luxury of the Accord. When you drive a Taurus, you are constantly reminded that you are only in a mid-class mid-size family sedan. Not so in the Accord.



Any of them have much better interior than Accord>>>

Perhaps they have a better layout and more detail (to justify the price and class segment) but the Accord equals their material quality as as well as fit and finish.

I think what you meant to say is midsize non luxury>>>

Mid-class, is what I said... and that is what it means.

Accord is alot closer to Altima than any of the above>>>

We clearly view quality differently.

Even TSX (best craftsmanship other than RL that Honda makes)>>>

Incase you werent aware, Accord and TSX share basically the same interior, for the TSX is nothing more than a European Accord. The TSX has a few more nifty details, but there is virtually no difference between the two on the inside.


Ture, I do compare an 6 yrs old engine with new engines as well as old engines. However it is a wide claim that honda engines are like new even after 100k miles>>>

Regarding dependability and longevity. A Honda 4-cylinder is not over the hill at only 100,000 miles. It says nothing about a 1996 4-cylinder being as smooth and refined as a 2003. Even Hondas new 2.4 is a hundred times better than my F22 in terms of smooth and quiet operation. In 1996, however, the Accord 4-cylinder was among (But not the most) refined in its class segment. The big two STILL do not have a 4-cylinder powerplant that performs as smooth and effortless as my 7-year old F22 at highway speeds.

The 8 yrs old volvo 850 engine w/ relative amount of milage seems to be holding up really well (even w/ 5 cyl volvo engine is much smoother and has lots more power) compare to the honda engine>>

And look at Vovos reliability track record. Its not nearly as consistant as Hondas.


Even some old nissan altima engines are holding up really well compare to the 4 cyl I have>>>

Nissan makes a decent quality engine as well (My personal favorite of theirs was the 3.0 v6) but they are still third behind Honda and Toyota.

When I test drove the new Accord with its price range in mind, I was not impressed by the smoothness and power. Steering wheel still vibrates and power is still non linear (4cyl)>>>

The steering wheel did not vibrate in my test Accord (EX) not even at highway speeds. The engine was very peppy for being a 4-cylinder, and I did not find the car to be under powered. Engine performed almost silently and I felt no hints of vibration whatsoever. The Altima was also a very smooth performer as I noted, but lacked the solid feel of the Accord.

Of course mywife's car is just totally unacceptable, it is a small 4 cyl that sounds like a disel truck>>>

And I truely believe your Accord is unique to itself. I have the same car, and it continues to impress me everyday. I've owned better riding cars, more powerful cars, and even more comfortable cars... but none of them had the quality nor reliability of the Accord day after day, year after year, mile after mile.


The 96 ex interior is almost as bad as a 91 Cavalier>>>

You stand alone on that belief. The 96 EXs interior is VERY well put together, materials are of good quality and every panel fits together with nearly perfect precision. After 7 years, it still has no rattles or squeaks, and still looks/feels like it did the day it was built. Nothing has ever failed to work, or come apart. In comparison to a 91 Cavalier, it's a Bentley.

Automatic transmission wise, I have never had one shifting so harsh. Of course, I might be biased, other than my first car, I have never driven a car with tag less than $30K>>

I've owned and driven cars in many different price ranges. Mostly Cadillacs, which is my American luxury brand of choice, and all were much above $30k. I thought I liked silky smooth automatics, until I test drove the Accord... Ive been sold on it ever since.

I am just extremely disappointed by the car when I finally have to drive the supposely legendary. Seeing so many "polished truth" here while suffering day to day is hard to swallow>>

Like I stated earlier, I truely believe that your car is unique to itself, because I own the same year make and model, and I do not have any dissapointments or regrets. I love the car, and am impressed with it every time I drive it. Its only flaw is not being a 2003

I stayed with European cars as that's what my family had been subscribing to until my wife's accord was forced onto me>>

I've never owned a European car, I tried to buy a VW Passat (before I considered the Accord) because the Passat has the solid build quality that attracted me to the Accord, plus that European ride and handling that I love so much. But when I started doing my homework, I learned that VW was having extensive reliability issues, and after speaking with owners...I decided that it wouldnt be a wise decision. I'd safely say 7 out of 10 Passat owners did not recommend the car to potential buyers. 9 out 10 Accord owners reassured me that I couldnt go wrong with the Honda. I'm glad I took their advice and I pass it on to everyone. I thought about BMW, but for the price, I was not moved by the styling and did not find the interiors to very comfortable or inviting. My other fear of owning a European automobile was knowing that when it breaks, repairs are more expensive than average, and only certain sources will perform the work. In that respect, the Accord is MUCH easier to own and reassured my decision.

W/ all the problems this car have and all the maintanence it required, I just don't understand why all the prase and all the comparasons to cars that are not in the same league>>>

Because the average Accord owner does not have the problems you are having with their car.


You get what you pay for; but there are good alternatives. BTW, Accord argueablely sets standards for midsize basic transportation (accord, camry altima..etc). Honda doesn't set standards where you guys are comparing Accord to. Start accepting Altima being a good alternative of Accord instead of trying to tell people that Accord is good alternative to A4, BMW3>>>

All I said was that for a mid-class car, the 7th gen Accord has the qualities and luxury of a much more expensive automobile, which it does, hands down.