owww that hurts darn maybe I should go rip it out and buy a 230 dollar aem v2 cause it makes so much more flow, maybe this is beyond u but a 3 inch pipe is a 3 inch pipe and a k&n filter is a K&N filter, so I didn't waste my money on aem short ram wow, that is really rational... by the way that was the first thing i ever did to my car.