alright...yeah i've been hearing crunch is cheap so i'll go with PA...as for my budget, there isn't...i'll just spend what i spend...it's not endless or anything...for just 2 10's and an amp i wanna spend 450 max...i'm thinkin bout goin with the PA zetar subs too when comparing them to the comp vr's...their sensitivity rating is 7 db's higher, and the magnet is more than twice as large so...my friend is gonna sell me 1 zetar for 70 bucks...sound good?...what other places sell PA subs online?