***Spec R's first build thread ever!***

[Spec R]

EDIT - I've merged these two threads together as the first thread was part of my build process. Thanks! The front bumper on my DC4 is pretty thrashed. Well its not that bad, but i'm a perfectionist in a way when it comes to certain things. An ugly front bumper is one of them. -The corner points where the bumper mounts to the fenders is broken completely on the driver side -The bumper was victim to what looks like a wings west type front lip, so there are tap screw holes in various places. -Whoever installed the ITR lip used more tap screws, which have pulled out of their mounting points and made "slots" in the bumper. -There are scratches from the lip on the bumper from going up driveways and whatever - Paint has either flaked off or been scratched off by other cars/objects - Grill was cut out, so there's nowhere to mount the SI-VTEC fog lights I picked up a while back. I'd like to get it replaced but there's a few options which i'd like your guys' input on.. * JDM conversion - out of question - its just not worth the 3000-3500 in parts, paint, and labor. * 98-01 conversion * Front bumper 200 (upper quality aftermarket) / 300 (new from acuraautomotiveparts.org) Headlights 375-400 (new only because new headlights make such a big impact on how bugeyed integras look) Turn Signals 50 ITR front lip 200 Paint 300-400 Total - $1350 *94-97 SI-VTEC conversion* Used 94-97 front bumper 100 SI-VTEC lip 200 (optional) SI-VTEC Turn Signals (optional) 100 New Headlights 375-400 (optional) Paint 300-400 Total - $400-$1100 What do u guys think? A - 98-01 Conversion ($1350) B - 94-97 (no options, keep ITR lip) ~ $400 C - 94-97 (SI-VTEC lip, no headlights) ~ $600 D - 94-97 (full options) ~ $1100 E - Dont do shit I'm leaning towards B and C, because it leaves me options to upgrade in stages.

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[white_n_slow]

If you're going to do one or the other, and its just a question of $150, I'd go with the 98+ conversion... much more attractive.

But then, I personally, would just leave it be :o

IBmoved

[Anthony]

Haven't the Type-R conversions gone down in price? I haven't really been much into Integra's for 4 years but I've seen more Type-R conversions since then.

[Spec R]

Originally Posted by white_n_slow

If you're going to do one or the other, and its just a question of $150, I'd go with the 98+ conversion... much more attractive.

But then, I personally, would just leave it be :o

IBmoved

the problem with the 98 conversion, is that i HAVE to buy headlights. sure, i could leave the lip out, but 98 fronts look like ass without a front lip.

Originally Posted by Anthony

Haven't the Type-R conversions gone down in price? I haven't really been much into Integra's for 4 years but I've seen more Type-R conversions since then.

indeed they have, but theft and attention isnt good.

[Skelly_GSR]

If I were you I would keep an eye out for a used 98-01 conversion on CL. Shit like that has gotta pop up easily in your area. Whether it's hot or not is another story

Originally Posted by Spec R

the problem with the 98 conversion, is that i HAVE to buy headlights.

You dont have to.

[Anthony]

One of my neighbors has had a Type-R front for 3 years, not stolen yet

[ISP James]

94-97 SI-Vtec FTW.

[Spec R]

Originally Posted by Skelly_GSR

If I were you I would keep an eye out for a used 98-01 conversion on CL. Shit like that has gotta pop up easily in your area. Whether it's hot or not is another story

You dont have to.

what will i do, drive around with no headlights?

Originally Posted by Anthony

One of my neighbors has had a Type-R front for 3 years, not stolen yet

i also dont have 3000 to burn on an aesthetic set of items. or do i i'd rather spend the 2000 towards a GSR swap

its just not worth it to me.

[TheOtherDave™]

94-97> 98-01 IMO.

I say:
1) Keep the existing lip spoiler.
2) Find a new 94-97 bumper cover for $200 or so.
3) Spend enough to get it painted by someone who can match the rest of the car without having to blend into the fenders and hood.
4) Swap bumper covers, install foglights.

Minimum investment and it covers all the bases.

[joebenz]

if you're gonna get rid of your stock bumper, let me know! i have somebody looking for one.

otherwise, where can i find a used 94-97 bumper for 100??

[Skelly_GSR]

Originally Posted by Spec R

what will i do, drive around with no headlights?



i also dont have 3000 to burn on an aesthetic set of items. or do i i'd rather spend the 2000 towards a GSR swap

its just not worth it to me.

no...

Use your current lights...

[Spec R]

Originally Posted by TheOtherDave™

94-97> 98-01 IMO.

I say:
1) Keep the existing lip spoiler.
2) Find a new 94-97 bumper cover for $200 or so.
3) Spend enough to get it painted by someone who can match the rest of the car without having to blend into the fenders and hood.
4) Swap bumper covers, install foglights.

Minimum investment and it covers all the bases.

thanks

Originally Posted by Skelly_GSR

no...

Use your current lights...

98-01 headlights arent the same.

Originally Posted by joebenz

if you're gonna get rid of your stock bumper, let me know! i have somebody looking for one.

otherwise, where can i find a used 94-97 bumper for 100??

yeah i will totally let you know. i'll probably sell the itr lip to eddie when he gets his integra anyway.

[Skelly_GSR]

Originally Posted by Spec R

thanks




98-01 headlights arent the same.




yeah i will totally let you know. i'll probably sell the itr lip to eddie when he gets his integra anyway.

I understand that. It seems like you have an understanding that 94-97 headlights will not work on a 98+ bumper. It may look goofy but you can do it. I was just thinking that if you found a 98+ bumper but had not luck finding 98 headlights. You could use the 97's in the meantime until you found 98's

[ISP James]

you can get a gs-r swap for 2k now????

[Spec R]

Originally Posted by Skelly_GSR

I understand that. It seems like you have an understanding that 94-97 headlights will not work on a 98+ bumper. It may look goofy but you can do it. I was just thinking that if you found a 98+ bumper but had not luck finding 98 headlights. You could use the 97's in the meantime until you found 98's

oh i've seen what you're talking about. not pretty. technically i could do that, but i'd just rather not. its like driving around with unpainted body parts. poor execution

Originally Posted by ISP James

you can get a gs-r swap for 2k now????

close to it, if u recycle a lot of the parts from the current car.

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30008

plus i'm local to them.

[2001TEGGSR]

I prefer the 98-01 style front end with an ITR lip and no fog lights. If your willing to wait until the price is right, just keep an eye on HT market place and CL until you find one. Yellow headlights can be restored easily as well, I wouldn't pay more than $200 for them.

Just FYI, I bought an aftermarket bumper that was higher quality. Fitmet was perfect, but it doesn't say integra by the headlight like OEM.

JDM conversions can be had for ~$1300 now days.

[Spec R]

Originally Posted by 2001TEGGSR

I prefer the 98-01 style front end with an ITR lip and no fog lights. If your willing to wait until the price is right, just keep an eye on HT market place and CL until you find one. Yellow headlights can be restored easily as well, I wouldn't pay more than $200 for them.

Just FYI, I bought an aftermarket bumper that was higher quality. Fitmet was perfect, but it doesn't say integra by the headlight like OEM.

JDM conversions can be had for ~$1300 now days.

yeah i can buff out headlights all day and such, but nothing beats brand new.

those $1300 conversions dont paint or install themselves though. in the end its still a few grand.

[AcuraLsSE]

If I were you I would probably go with with Dave's advice. Personally I prefer the 98 + with lip, Looks sexy with an intercooler tucked in there.

[Spec R]

Originally Posted by AcuraLsSE

If I were you I would probably go with with Dave's advice. Personally I prefer the 98 + with lip, Looks sexy with an intercooler tucked in there.

yes they doo





but no plans on turbo'ing this teg

[ADRONICUS]

I would go with the 98 + front end. I like the other one too, but I love my 99 front end. It has a nicer style to it and better contour.

[jesusublime99]

I have both and I see them everyday. I'll have to say that a 98-01 front-end makes the car look a lot newer to me.

But, 94-97 foglights with a 97 ITR front lip like you have, and new headlights with a new paint job sure is a rarity these days and the keeps the vehicle's originality. Thats I'm going to do to my '95, with amber turn signals.

Actually, I was about to buy new headlights the other day...I went to Streetlightz and they said they could order me new oem 94-97 headlights for $250. Try them.

I vote for D, with a new 97 ITR lip. They all look good though with a paint job and headlights, thats for sure.

[Spec R]

k so i picked up a used 94-97 bumper with a virgin grill and clean corner tabs.

jesusublime, 250 is a great price, i'll look into those man. thanks for looking out.

btw, do u have any paintshop recommendations in the 818?

[jesusublime99]

Actually, we rely on our friend to do paint jobs and bodywork for us; I've never had to go to a body shop.

This is the look I'm going with, plus foglights. Both my cars are black too.

[Spec R]

Originally Posted by jesusublime99

Actually, we rely on our friend to do paint jobs and bodywork for us; I've never had to go to a body shop.

This is the look I'm going with, plus foglights. Both my cars are black too.

yeah the itr lip looks awesome on black cars.

mine not so much.

[Lynxs1981]

Yea, you can't beat that black with the blue pearl on the Teg's.

[1turbodc2]

98-01 for sure! with S2k retrofit!!!! since u need headlights anywayz muhahahha

just to add to the turbo bug since we had one at some point and now gone..

my old car damn i miss that car!!

[Spec R]

damn that looks so great with the gram lights and all...

[1turbodc2]

Originally Posted by Spec R

damn that looks so great with the gram lights and all...

thank you sir! if u do the 98 up convertion u should check n see if anyone is selling a set of retrofitted headlights.. the difference in driving at night is amazing!!

[Spec R]

Originally Posted by 1turbodc2

thank you sir! if u do the 98 up convertion u should check n see if anyone is selling a set of retrofitted headlights.. the difference in driving at night is amazing!!

yeah i'm going to do that eventually.

oem HID's are the sheezy

[1turbodc2]

Originally Posted by Spec R

yeah i'm going to do that eventually.

oem HID's are the sheezy

fo realzzzz... its is one bitch of a DIY that i will tell u, would highly recommend having customlightz or someone of that nature handle that task.. Steve and I tried it, and lets just say it BLEW!!!!!!!