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A5295 10-01-2003 03:20 PM

changes after the swap...
 
I am considering a full GSR swap for my civic in the near future. What changes should i be ready for the first time i autocross after the swap is finished? I am unsure of the weight differences of the D15 and the B18. I am probably gonna swap over the LCA's, sway bars, and suspension from the integra, but it will come later.

How competitive can i be in SM2 with this swap and a stock suspension setup?

Thanks for the help,

Michael

white_n_slow 10-01-2003 05:34 PM

youre not going to be very competitive with stock suspension... Most cars in SM are thoroughly modified in every respect... suspension, brakes, power, etc...

As for weight, the Bseries motor shouldn't alter your handling too much, it weighs about 60-80 lbs more than your d-series... thats about the same weight as full a/c or power steering... no biggie.

If you want to be competitive in SM, get ready to spend a fair amount of cash... Even if you're a good driver, stock suspension wont cut it unless you live in an area with very few SM cars.

hih

CivicSiRacer 10-01-2003 08:53 PM

The Cobb Tuning WRX last year spent almost $80,000 and still lost if I remember right in SM :)

You'd be in Street Mod not SM2 (for two seaters).

You'd fair better with your Civic in STS against other cars in that class that are similar weight, power and mods allowed.

SM is no holds barred bring out your bank account :)

white_n_slow 10-01-2003 09:34 PM


Originally posted by CivicSiRacer
The Cobb Tuning WRX last year spent almost $80,000 and still lost if I remember right in SM :)


...and then they crashed it into a water truck :chuckles:

CivicSiRacer 10-02-2003 04:41 AM

Well that was at a different event and the water truck shouldn't have been on the track.

jaje 10-02-2003 05:49 AM

that was the sport compact car testing they did (they wanted to get some shots of the cobb wrx sliding on wet pavement only to abruptly introduce the water truck to the wrx

white_n_slow 10-02-2003 09:26 AM

that was one of the more entertaining pieces I've read in that mag :chuckles:

A5295 10-02-2003 02:32 PM

That was pretty funny. I guess my biggest reason for the swap is that i am so sick of being so slow... I spend most of my time on an autocross course trying to reach the tiny power band, and i just feel like i need more power, not to mention everything else.

I am actually pondering selling the car, because i want something rwd. I am only trying to keep the car because i have very little money invested in the car. I am already in dsp, and am not greatly competitive, as i am still a novice, but yet again, i am not getting much seat time, because of budget issues.

So i am unsure what i am going to do at this point.

Did any of that make sense?

white_n_slow 10-02-2003 03:55 PM

well, if youre iffy on fwd vs. rwd, you probably don't want to go pouring money into a civic. Look for an old corolla gt-s or an old MR2 to race in a stock class. Or just find an old beater honda for H-stock. If you just want to have fun and be competitive, stock classes are the way to go. It takes a lot of money, dedication, practice and skill to make it in SM for most regions.

A5295 10-02-2003 08:18 PM

Oh i definately agree. I am looking to be competitive in my group of guys, more so than just in pax. A few of the guys in our group are already running in sm2-a ZC powered CRX and a 10psi boosted turbo II rx7. we compete more so for just raw times between each other, more so than the pax and trying to be so competitive with the big shots in our region.


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