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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 10:59 AM
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I have a ton of games that I need to backup, but I found out you need a modchip to do it? Anyone have suggestions on which one to get?

-It must be easy to update because I always buy the newest games.

-Is it possible to stream it from the network because I'd like to back them up electronically instead of on disc?

-I'm familiar with a soldering iron, but not having to use one would be ideal.

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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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I think most people just flash the dvd drive.
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Wharbone
I think most people just flash the dvd drive.
Can you link me to an article?
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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I've never done this myself since I don't want to risk my live account being canceled, but these links seem good. Drew has a modded 360 and could probably help a lot more than me.

Open/Dissasemble case
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Old Jul 4, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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I already sent drew a PM no response yet.
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Red X
I have a ton of games that I need to backup, but I found out you need a modchip to do it? Anyone have suggestions on which one to get?
When you mod the 360, you alter the drive controller of the dvd-rom. The system's OS / NXE (new Xbox experience) dashboard is completely separate from this.

You can solder a chip, but this is a 40 to 60 wire process pending your model of DVD rom. The most common way to mod the dvd-rom is by "flashing" it with an "iXtreme" firmware.

Each flash process is completely different pending your hardware configuration. You need to start by determining which DVD-Rom model is inside of your 360.

From there, it's a mess of steps ... in a nut shell:

1. remove the 360's outer shell.
2. place the 360 onto your PC's inner frame to make metal to metal (ground) contact
3. With a specific SATA controller (VIA-something or other), attach the 360's DVD rom to your PC's mobo.
5. power up the PC, power up the 360
6. execute some dos commands with a pre-loaded USB thumb drive inserted into the PC
7. extract the dvd-rom's drive key. This is a series of digits printed into the drive's controller chip. It's what the 360 HDD / Mobo look for when checking for a signature match. W.O the match, the system will not boot.
8. flash away using an app w. drive key inputted into the app.

The 360 requires a rolling fix. I'm currently on the iXtreme 1.41 firmware. It still works with the latest 360 games, only if I pre-patch the .ISO image. I didn't have to patch any games from March 2009 and before.

I haven't updated to the newest iXtreme because the 360 flash is the most freaky mod I've done. I was on pins and needles the entire time during the process.


Originally Posted by Red X
-It must be easy to update because I always buy the newest games.
Easy if you get the flashing routine down.

Originally Posted by Red X
-Is it possible to stream it from the network because I'd like to back them up electronically instead of on disc?
No.

You need to record all 360 titles onto DVD-R DL discs. No 360 game is under 5.32Gb in size with most hitting 7.32.

To rip a game, you'll need a "Kreon" DVD-Rom from eBay. Match the "Kreon" drive and "Xbox Backup Creator" and you'll be ready to go.

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If this violates ToS please delete but this is for backup'd games only.
Discussion is okay. I can't link anything though.
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 06:44 PM
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soft modding is the way to go. my buddy does it.
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by e3NiNe
When you mod the 360, you alter the drive controller of the dvd-rom. The system's OS / NXE (new Xbox experience) dashboard is completely separate from this.

You can solder a chip, but this is a 40 to 60 wire process pending your model of DVD rom. The most common way to mod the dvd-rom is by "flashing" it with an "iXtreme" firmware.

Each flash process is completely different pending your hardware configuration. You need to start by determining which DVD-Rom model is inside of your 360.

From there, it's a mess of steps ... in a nut shell:

1. remove the 360's outer shell.
2. place the 360 onto your PC's inner frame to make metal to metal (ground) contact
3. With a specific SATA controller (VIA-something or other), attach the 360's DVD rom to your PC's mobo.
5. power up the PC, power up the 360
6. execute some dos commands with a pre-loaded USB thumb drive inserted into the PC
7. extract the dvd-rom's drive key. This is a series of digits printed into the drive's controller chip. It's what the 360 HDD / Mobo look for when checking for a signature match. W.O the match, the system will not boot.
8. flash away using an app w. drive key inputted into the app.

The 360 requires a rolling fix. I'm currently on the iXtreme 1.41 firmware. It still works with the latest 360 games, only if I pre-patch the .ISO image. I didn't have to patch any games from March 2009 and before.

I haven't updated to the newest iXtreme because the 360 flash is the most freaky mod I've done. I was on pins and needles the entire time during the process.



Easy if you get the flashing routine down.


No.

You need to record all 360 titles onto DVD-R DL discs. No 360 game is under 5.32Gb in size with most hitting 7.32.

To rip a game, you'll need a "Kreon" DVD-Rom from eBay. Match the "Kreon" drive and "Xbox Backup Creator" and you'll be ready to go.


Discussion is okay. I can't link anything though.

Thats a lot of effort . I don't want to mess up my xbox... I have a fairly new version consideirng I got the cheapest one at the circuit city liquidation about 4 months ago.
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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Hey drew - is that the box you use on live? and what are the odds these days of it being banned? Or is that only an issue if you are online using burnt discs? I'm thinking of doing it to my own 360.
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Old Jul 7, 2009 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lowbrow
Hey drew - is that the box you use on live? and what are the odds these days of it being banned? Or is that only an issue if you are online using burnt discs? I'm thinking of doing it to my own 360.
Bans are an unknown formula and come in huge waves. There are several "triggers" for them though.

1. Bad check sum digits coming from the disc. The DVD-Rom will send digits back to XBL for every title inserted into the machine. If there's some type of unexpected figure there, your machine is flagged.

Bad check sums can be generated by spoofed DVD-Roms (swapped hardware modules), bad game rips, modified game images, or pre-release / leaked games.


2. Earning achievements before the game's release. Your Xbox will cache every piece of gamer gold earned, then open the floodgates the moment you sign online. If you're consistently earning gamer points on titles, before their official release dates, you're banned.

In November, an XBL user was banned for playing a legit copy of GoW2 on unmodified hardware, due to earning achievement points early. It wasn't the guy's fault, he purchased the title from a 7-11 that got sloppy with the rls date.


I have 2 modified machines, both of which do not see Xbox Live at all. Occasionally, I'll need an Xbox Live update to run a disc. I'll connect the machine to the internet, flip the system on, and go to the option "join xbox live". At this point, a system update is triggered.

I grab the needed update, then never join XBL after the system reboots. XBL can't ban what isn't registered.


I have a completely separate machine for XBL. It's nothing short of a $200 Halo 3 TV adapter.



There are ways to play copies on XBL through "stealth backups", but it's generally accepted that it's only a matter of time till you're banned. You'll be lucky to play XBL for 4 months.
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