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Old 01-15-2005, 04:35 PM
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alright i have a d16y8, im installing a turbo kit in a week, i need to know some info and setups to run fuel when im running 6-8lbs of boost, i already have a vafc installed.
Old 01-15-2005, 06:43 PM
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Get some larger injectors (450cc will do) and an appopintment to get it on a dyno so you can tune it.

What kind of turbo kit is it? New? Used? Complete?
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any ideas on brands of fuel injectors, will i need a btm or anything to adjust ignition during boost...its a greddy kit with intercooler and 3 inch downpipe with exhaust


will i need to upgrade my fuel pump or anything else
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i deffinately have been stressed to get it dynoed and tuned for the proper mixture to avoid detonation
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Originally Posted by silvic00
any ideas on brands of fuel injectors, will i need a btm or anything to adjust ignition during boost...its a greddy kit with intercooler and 3 inch downpipe with exhaust


will i need to upgrade my fuel pump or anything else

Well dsm 4500cc injectors are cheap and easy to install.
Getting a btm would actually be benifitial and you'll probably make a little more power since you can run full base timing and retard it per psi of boost instead of retarding your timing via the distributor and throwing off all of your timing. Everything is thrown off when you retard your distributor timing (cam,ignition, injector's etc). All you need to retard is your ignition timing advance.
If you run larger injectors, the stock pump will be fine.
Another option would be to sell the v-afc and go with hondata. Or another form of simular fuel/ignition management. Much more reliable and you'll make more power.
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Originally Posted by silvic00
any ideas on brands of fuel injectors, will i need a btm or anything to adjust ignition during boost...its a greddy kit with intercooler and 3 inch downpipe with exhaust


will i need to upgrade my fuel pump or anything else
Doesn't the Greddy kit come with RC 310 cc injectors? Mine did. What means are you getting to tune it? If you are running the stock blue box, you can't tune it but it is better than running a FMU with a MAP sensor bypass.
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Originally Posted by Shmoo
Doesn't the Greddy kit come with RC 310 cc injectors? Mine did. What means are you getting to tune it? If you are running the stock blue box, you can't tune it but it is better than running a FMU with a MAP sensor bypass.

The b-series kits come with 310cc injectors, the d-series don't.
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so i could keep my vafc, get bigger injectors and a btm and id be fine with proper tuning (dyno) from a reputable shop... i dont wanna buy a standalone like hondata yet due to i plan on doing a motor swap and turboing that motor also


i can get ahold of a greddy emanage is that what your talking about? i heard good and bad things about fmus i have one but dont think or plan on running it, i have the synapse missing link check valve also
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Originally Posted by silvic00
so i could keep my vafc, get bigger injectors and a btm and id be fine with proper tuning (dyno) from a reputable shop... i dont wanna buy a standalone like hondata yet due to i plan on doing a motor swap and turboing that motor also


i can get ahold of a greddy emanage is that what your talking about? i heard good and bad things about fmus i have one but dont think or plan on running it, i have the synapse missing link check valve also
Yeah, that set up should be fine for now as long as boost is kept under about 8-9 psi. Why don't you swap the motor first before you turbo your original one?

The blue box and the Emanage are two different things. The blue box is what comes with the kit (B-series for sure, not sure about D-series) and is non-tunable and the emanage is a tunable upgrade from the bluebox but is still a piggyback like your VAFC. Don't run the FMU if you are using the VAFC.
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yeah i knew about not running an fmu with the vafc but what about the emanage? yeah im only gonna run 6lbs on daily driving and maybe 8 at the track if that.

alright if i get a set of the dsm 450cc injectors do they just slide in and connect to my harness or are mods required? what other brand/type should i look into? i was told to atleast get 310cc (stock is 240cc)


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