Shmoo's GSR Engine Build: Operation 400whp not 56k friendly
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Looks like this will be interesting. I've heard mixed feelings on Eagle rods and my feelings on sleeving is that you might as well do it while you have it apart especially considering that people like you and me have a hard time sitting still. 
You know that as soon as you get this thing to 400 you'll want more... and a year later even more. It's no small task to garage your car, tear down the engine, and ship it off to be sleeved so I think you should just do it while you're in the current situation. What better time will you have? It's much easier to replace internals than it is to have block work done... just a perspective to consider.
Based on your knowledge, I expect you to achieve just what (and more than) you have expressed here. You're in for a fun ride.
You know that as soon as you get this thing to 400 you'll want more... and a year later even more. It's no small task to garage your car, tear down the engine, and ship it off to be sleeved so I think you should just do it while you're in the current situation. What better time will you have? It's much easier to replace internals than it is to have block work done... just a perspective to consider. Based on your knowledge, I expect you to achieve just what (and more than) you have expressed here. You're in for a fun ride.
I haven't heard many bad things about Eagle rods. A ton of people are using them and they have been proven to reliably make the power I am looking for, so unless I find an insane deal on some beefier rods, I'll stick with them.
I have contemplated sleeving the block and it isn't time that worries me, but money. I am currently working full time making decent money but as soon as school starts again in late August, I will go back to part time and money will be super tight. As much as I would love to sleeve and bore to a 2.0L, it just doesn't fit into the budget. :happysad:
Thanks for your input, though. I will definitely consider your advice. :goodjob:
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Great job, i love your build! You car is my inspiration of what i want my car to be someday. Only thing holding me back is what holds everyone back, money lol. I need to take that one job that said they will pay me 15 dollars a hour! Good luck with your build and hope all goes well! Brian
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Good luck sir.
Whatever pistons you do get, get a brand that uses the same pin offset as OEM honda pistons (the only one i know is wiseco, there might be more now).
other than that you're already on top of the game.
random question, does your 18G exhibit a bunch of shaft play, axial and radial? i mean compared to other non-greddy/mitsu turbo's you've felt
Whatever pistons you do get, get a brand that uses the same pin offset as OEM honda pistons (the only one i know is wiseco, there might be more now).
other than that you're already on top of the game.
random question, does your 18G exhibit a bunch of shaft play, axial and radial? i mean compared to other non-greddy/mitsu turbo's you've felt
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Good luck sir.
Whatever pistons you do get, get a brand that uses the same pin offset as OEM honda pistons (the only one i know is wiseco, there might be more now).
other than that you're already on top of the game.
random question, does your 18G exhibit a bunch of shaft play, axial and radial? i mean compared to other non-greddy/mitsu turbo's you've felt
Whatever pistons you do get, get a brand that uses the same pin offset as OEM honda pistons (the only one i know is wiseco, there might be more now).
other than that you're already on top of the game.
random question, does your 18G exhibit a bunch of shaft play, axial and radial? i mean compared to other non-greddy/mitsu turbo's you've felt
I am definitely considering Wiseco over everything else.
I haven't checked for shaft play recently, but last time I checked, there was a very minimal axial play. Compared to the GT series turbos we sell at work, it seems completely normal.
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Check out RaceEngineering. They sell piston/rod kits. That's where I got my 9:1 CP pistons/EAGLE rods with ARP hardware. if i remember correctly it was around 750 bucks. I just got my motor back from the machine shop, its running cherry. b18c1 bored over .20mm. turbo coming soon.
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oh and don't go with wiseco, the guy that built my motor has seen way too many builds flush down the drain because of those pistons. Either get CP or Ross pistons. He said and i quote "Wiseco pistons are just shiny pieces of shit"...take it from a guy that builds motors for nascar and team ferrari.
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oh and don't go with wiseco, the guy that built my motor has seen way too many builds flush down the drain because of those pistons. Either get CP or Ross pistons. He said and i quote "Wiseco pistons are just shiny pieces of shit"...take it from a guy that builds motors for nascar and team ferrari.
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Yeah, but I can walk to work in 10 minutes and school in 3 minutes, so I am not sweating any downtime.
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So, I have decided on a GT3255E (good to 420-430whp at my altitude at ~24 psi), SLS shorty manifold, and 38mm wastegate. I also have decided against switching engine management since I have invested a lot of time and money into becoming familiar with the hardware and software involved in tuning Crome.
Here is a pic of the manifold:
Here is a pic of the manifold: