Sorry George - I probably won't have a chance to change fluid level for another week or two when I can get the car out for a drive. I'll keep you posted though.

I don't know anyone else other than those on the HT thread who have tried to remove the system.

**Even if it is NO easier then just removing the belt, I think it's worth it. I always tie down the a/c belt before a track day & now I don't have the p/s pump in the way!!

 

I have p/s removed (not just the belt) and the Padawan kit installed.

Ok - when I first got it - I thought - OMFG this is a really big difference!!You get used to it very quickly though and in my opinion improves feel by a large margin. you really can feel the tires a lot better and the overly light feeling of the steering at speed disappears.

I got to drive a Proformance race car this summer for a 2-day school. This is a tube frame race car with manual steering. I thought the steering was clunky and not very precise in that instance. The Type R is heaven in comparison.

I think if you track your car a lot it is a nice mod.

The downside of course is increased steering effort - esp parallel parking. My Type R is a "sunday" car - so that aspect doesn't bother me.

 

George,

There is a very large difference in just removing the belt and actually removing some fluid/venting the system. Almost night and day.

See me at the expo and I'll let you take my ITR for a qwik spin, then you can tell me if it is a perceived differance or not.

Mattj

 

Matt - I've used padwan's kit & removed my p/s system. Is your fluid level down at the rack or up the hose all the way to the resivoir? I'm thinking I need to take a bit more fluid out to make the effort less. Currently it's just a bit less than the 'no belt' option.

btw- nice to see you on our boards! I wanna see your dart block in action :shock: Is it all completed?

 

I have been here before just never posted.

My fluid is in the rack, I can't see it at all. When I first set the beather up and turned the wheel I shot fluid through the breather hole =big mess

Yes the Dart talldeck is in the car, only have about 600 miles on it and its currently in storage/modify mod for the winter. I am raising the rear suspension spring rates, installing ARP wheel studs, swapping front upper A-arms and trying to shed some more weight over this winter.

Mattj

 

If you are speaking about for track use (providing whomever you are racing with allows the removal of it in the rules) take it out- no ps is great on track- less weight, more hp, and the most important part the better feel/response.
I haven't actually driven without it on my R (as I don't race it yet) but I know Franza (ECHC) doesn't use it in his for same reason, and my track/racecar is a Civic, and we removed the ps. I love it with no ps!!
I wouldn't go without it though (me personally) for daily driving nor auto-X at low speeds its a pain in the bootie! I've actually sprained my wrist driving the Civic with no ps on race tires at a auto-X, and that lesson is what stopped me from removing it from my R until its 100% track car.