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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 08:06 AM
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i was wonderin' if anyone know for sure, if the HP gains on a performance part/kit differs alot between say a GS-R VS a ITR (or a Si VS a CTR)??

for example: a kit for a GS-R, that has the good 1st stage mods (header, exhaust, CAI~160-165 whp), says it will make about 240-245 whp....
would u still only get that 80-85 whp on a ITR? i know the ITR already has about 25 (flywheel) hp more, but being a lil different would it gain like 5-10 more if it was put on it?

another example: a kit for a Si (B16A) has been able to make about 270-280 whp, said about a 100-120 whp gain
on a CTR (B16B) would u still only see 100-120 whp gain or mayb more? also, would a kit for an B16A work on a B16B?

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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 10:15 AM
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also, w/ using a thicker head gasket could i still run the same PSI w/ a Si kit on a CTR? to solve the issue of the higher compression?
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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 10:18 AM
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dont believe what ads in magazines say. you WON'T get 240-245 whp from just I/H/E.

you'll be lucky to get even 3 whp.
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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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i think hes talking about turbo kits. but i dunno


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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by asiandoood
dont believe what ads in magazines say. you WON'T get 240-245 whp from just I/H/E.

you'll be lucky to get even 3 whp.
exactly, you don't gain sh*t from I/H/E its all hype to sell there product. Its mostly makes your car sound abetter and makes your car look better too. your ARE going to gain something but its nothing huge or nothing to brag about either, your car may pull harder but nothing spectacular. if you want to have 245 whp, get a turbo kit or supercharger.
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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 10:26 AM
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I hope that hes talking about a turbo kit.
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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by insnimprtguy
also, w/ using a thicker head gasket could i still run the same PSI w/ a Si kit on a CTR? to solve the issue of the higher compression?
he must be talkin about FI b/c of this post


even on an SI (b16a2) you will want to run a thicker headgasket if you plan on running more boost than that stock kit setup. & sonce the CTR engine has even higher compression, so you would want to use a thicker headgasket to run FI.

the CTR & ITR engines gain more power from higher compression, but also by using higher lift/duration cams. these cams are better for an FI setup, but must be tuned for an FI setup, as opposed to a N/A setup (read:minimize overlap for the FI setup)
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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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read what i said again

"for example: a kit for a GS-R, that has the good 1st stage mods (header, exhaust, CAI~160-165 whp), says it will make about 240-245 whp...."

a kit for a GS-R made 240-245 whp, it already had a h/i/e which gives a GS-R around 160-165 whp, k??

what i'm wonder is this... a kit made for an Si w/ a h/i/e plus the kit made about 270-275 whp

now i put that on a CTR motor, add a thicker head gasket so i don't have to turn down the boost, would i gain more than the 130 whp that the kit gave or would i only gain the same, but make more whp 'cuz of the CTR already having 25 hp more at the flywheel??

i only ask 'bout the head gasket for the stock boost for the kit, because it's set up for a .4 lower compression (Si motor), i don't plan on messing w/ the boost for awhile, w/ around 270+ whp and the set up i have already i don't need anymore for road racing

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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by b18cya
i think hes talking about turbo kits. but i dunno

I'm with him.

I (and it seems other people on here) don't like to read things over and over again to understand them. If I correctly understand what you are saying...it all depends. CTR heads are a little different, CR ratios are different, pistons are different. There are too many variables to say how much hp something will add if put on different engines...my guess...you'd probably be at the same level, if not more, but I don't see you losing hp...its all guess work, just bolt it on and find out...

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Old Jul 13, 2002 | 11:04 PM
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k, that's all i wanted to know is anyone could tell me if i'd b gettin' the same, more, etc

thanx, later
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