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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 10:15 AM
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HELP!!!!!...my best friend and i just put a set of SPOON cams in his B16a3...the car sounds SICK, but from idle to 2500rpm its so slugish, from there to 5600 it runs like a raped ape, but once it hits VTEC, the damn thing falls on its face...and then gradually pulls harder, but nothing like it did with the stock cams..which is odd...everythings lines up at TDC...the timing checked good with the timing light...the Adjustable cam gears are lined up at 0 deg advance or retard, so im stumped on how to correct the problem...any info would be greatly appreciated
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 11:53 AM
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The VTEC point is probably set at the wrong RPM for those cams.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 12:06 PM
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well..my friend has 3 ECUS....with crossovers of 4800,5600, and 5800...whats the best cross over...also..it idles a little rough..im not sure if thats cause the cams need to be worn in or not..its got over 100miles on the new cams..so i dunno what else there is to adj to get it to work right..lol
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:04 PM
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They need to be TUNED. Not just some random ECUs you're slapping in there with "spoon" programs. You'll need fuel management and some dyno time.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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vtec is prolly set to low. does he at least have a VAFC?? tuning is the key to making good power with anything...
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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Definately sounds like VTEC is set too low. What are the specs on those cams?
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:51 PM
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Sounds to me like the cam timing isn't optimized for the powerband he wants. Time to get that thing dyno tuned by someone who knows what they are doing.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:55 PM
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http://www.randdmotorsports.com/spoonsports.html#civic


says there that they are designed to make power to 9000 rpms

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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by wadzii
http://www.randdmotorsports.com/spoonsports.html#civic

says there that they are designed to make power to 9000 rpms
Actually, it says that the Spoon valve springs are good to 9000.
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Old Sep 17, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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ah..... good thing i can read
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