Hondata website hacked :doh:
Thread Starter
Wannabe yuppie
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 25,918
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI
Hondata website hacked :doh:
Hondata's website got hacked by some Brazilians talking about how gun control is bad.
www.hondata.com
If it comes back up, the crappy translation from Babelfish is as follows:
"Good this protest is a toast pra who does not have cerebro pra to think and not ve that the disarmament of the population never goes to help in the urban violence and yes to get worse, Therefore vc ja saw outlaw to buy weapon in store using its name? thief knowing that nao we have weapons, comes without fear! he is as to steal child candy "
The control of the indices of crimes if does not make through superficial measures, as to forbid to the access them honest citizens to the firearms, but set of politics that involve since measures effective of reinforcement of the system of criminal justice of the police organizations, of Justice and the prisional system and economic policies, social, urban and educational that attacks the origins and the contexts favorable to the delicts.
To control weapons does not mean to control crime.
It does not have any evidence of that it has a correlation between the two phenomena: increase of circulation of legal weapons and increase of crime.
To choose the weapons as the causer of the lethal crimes is an easy and sensationalist reply, a time that we deviate the attention of the too much causes, much more complex and that they involve an ample net of factors of social nature, educational, moral, cultural and even though pathological.
Countries that had adopted restrictive laws with the hope to contain the advance of crime had suffered hard consequences among others, as it is the case of England, Australia, of Canada and France.
In some cases, it had until increase of the numbers of crimes.
Most of the homicides has relation with the drug trafficking.
This is a basic point: impossible to speak in crime in Brazil without mentioning its narrow relation with the traffic of drugs. Evident, this privacy was alerted recently by the ONU: great part of the 30 a thousand registered homicides annually in the Country can be attributed to the traffic.
The harmful combination between narcotics and social degradation, lack of control of the State, imperfections in the prisional system, etc. is that it creates a perfect environment for the proliferation of the crime, especially in great cities, as São Paulo and Rio De Janeiro.
The weapons are instruments of dissuasion of the crime.
Brazil and the United States possess different social contexts very.
However, the dissuasion effect (or either, the capacity that one firearm possesss to hinder that a crime happens) is the same.
In U.S.A., in contrast of Brazil, some studies exist that prove this reality.
One of the most known, called the Survey of Felons and Their Firearms, sponsored for the American Department of Justice, half pointed most effective the armed citizen as of impediment of the crime in the nation.
The research, carried through with more than 1,800 criminals, showed that 81% of the criminals looked for to know, before the onslaught, if the victim was armed, and 74% of them had said that they prevented to enter in residences where they knew to live armed citizens.
Legais/habitante number of weapons and indices of homicides: false relation.
Verifying the number of legal weapons in cities as São Paulo and Rio De Janeiro where the indices of homicides are above of the Brazilian average we evidence this false relation.
The State most armed of the Country, the Rio Grande Do Sul (with the average of 10,86 habitantes/arma) has numbers of lesser homicides of that in São Paulo (average of 74,54 habitantes/arma) and in the River (29,12 habitantes/arma).
In 20 years, the homicides had increased of 10 a thousand for 40 mil/ano. While venda of weapons fell of 51 a thousand for 23 a thousand in the civil market (legal).
This sample that if cannot say that bigger density of legal weapons in the population means, necessarily, greater volume of crimes.
Majority of the homicides is committed by people with criminal antecedents.
According to a study of the professor Jose Pastore, of the University of São Paulo (USP), 82.6% of the crimes clarified in the State of São Paulo are committed by relapsing criminals who buy weapons, obviously, in the clandestine market.
The right of self defense must be respected.
The article 5º of the Brazilian Federal Constitution says that all are equal before the law, without distinction of any nature, guaranteeing themselves it the Brazilians and resident foreigners in the Country the inviolability of the right to the life, the freedom, the equality, the security and the property.
When restricting the access of the citizens of good to the firearms, the call Statute of the Disarmament -- the proposal of the government -- attacks the right to the life: considering that the criminals will not deliver its weapons.
He enters the years of 1980 and 2000, the number of homicides went up of 12 for each 100 a thousand inhabitants for 27 for 100 a thousand inhabitants, having a superior increase the 200%
The research carried through with more than 1800 criminals showed that:
81% had affirmed that they look for to know before if the victim is? seted;
74% of the outlaws had affirmed to prevent to enter in residences where? they know to live armed citizens;
40% had said that they had left to commit crimes of that from fear? victim was seted;
57% had affirmed to fear more the armed citizen of whom the proper one? Policy;
56% had said not to approach victims who distrust to be? seted.
Legal weapons do not manufacture criminals.
Since 1994 the total of transports emitted in the RIO DE JANEIRO reaches more than a hundred little.
Or either, of the weapon the totality supply in hands of civilians can only be kept in the residences and the workstations.
Vendas of weapons for the civil market, in turn, comes if reducing to each year. Between 1996 and 2002, they had been vendidas not more of the one than 25 a thousand weapons.
Rio De Janeiro is if disarming, and crime increasing in the last years.
sh-2.05b # uname - a;id
uname - a;id
Linux kekaha.globalhost.com 2.4.20-8 #1 Thu Sea 13 17:54:28 EST 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
uid=0(root) gid=0(root)
sh-2.05b #
sh-2.05b #
SimienS - We are more than a group! we are the voice of a better world!
www.hondata.com
If it comes back up, the crappy translation from Babelfish is as follows:
"Good this protest is a toast pra who does not have cerebro pra to think and not ve that the disarmament of the population never goes to help in the urban violence and yes to get worse, Therefore vc ja saw outlaw to buy weapon in store using its name? thief knowing that nao we have weapons, comes without fear! he is as to steal child candy "
The control of the indices of crimes if does not make through superficial measures, as to forbid to the access them honest citizens to the firearms, but set of politics that involve since measures effective of reinforcement of the system of criminal justice of the police organizations, of Justice and the prisional system and economic policies, social, urban and educational that attacks the origins and the contexts favorable to the delicts.
To control weapons does not mean to control crime.
It does not have any evidence of that it has a correlation between the two phenomena: increase of circulation of legal weapons and increase of crime.
To choose the weapons as the causer of the lethal crimes is an easy and sensationalist reply, a time that we deviate the attention of the too much causes, much more complex and that they involve an ample net of factors of social nature, educational, moral, cultural and even though pathological.
Countries that had adopted restrictive laws with the hope to contain the advance of crime had suffered hard consequences among others, as it is the case of England, Australia, of Canada and France.
In some cases, it had until increase of the numbers of crimes.
Most of the homicides has relation with the drug trafficking.
This is a basic point: impossible to speak in crime in Brazil without mentioning its narrow relation with the traffic of drugs. Evident, this privacy was alerted recently by the ONU: great part of the 30 a thousand registered homicides annually in the Country can be attributed to the traffic.
The harmful combination between narcotics and social degradation, lack of control of the State, imperfections in the prisional system, etc. is that it creates a perfect environment for the proliferation of the crime, especially in great cities, as São Paulo and Rio De Janeiro.
The weapons are instruments of dissuasion of the crime.
Brazil and the United States possess different social contexts very.
However, the dissuasion effect (or either, the capacity that one firearm possesss to hinder that a crime happens) is the same.
In U.S.A., in contrast of Brazil, some studies exist that prove this reality.
One of the most known, called the Survey of Felons and Their Firearms, sponsored for the American Department of Justice, half pointed most effective the armed citizen as of impediment of the crime in the nation.
The research, carried through with more than 1,800 criminals, showed that 81% of the criminals looked for to know, before the onslaught, if the victim was armed, and 74% of them had said that they prevented to enter in residences where they knew to live armed citizens.
Legais/habitante number of weapons and indices of homicides: false relation.
Verifying the number of legal weapons in cities as São Paulo and Rio De Janeiro where the indices of homicides are above of the Brazilian average we evidence this false relation.
The State most armed of the Country, the Rio Grande Do Sul (with the average of 10,86 habitantes/arma) has numbers of lesser homicides of that in São Paulo (average of 74,54 habitantes/arma) and in the River (29,12 habitantes/arma).
In 20 years, the homicides had increased of 10 a thousand for 40 mil/ano. While venda of weapons fell of 51 a thousand for 23 a thousand in the civil market (legal).
This sample that if cannot say that bigger density of legal weapons in the population means, necessarily, greater volume of crimes.
Majority of the homicides is committed by people with criminal antecedents.
According to a study of the professor Jose Pastore, of the University of São Paulo (USP), 82.6% of the crimes clarified in the State of São Paulo are committed by relapsing criminals who buy weapons, obviously, in the clandestine market.
The right of self defense must be respected.
The article 5º of the Brazilian Federal Constitution says that all are equal before the law, without distinction of any nature, guaranteeing themselves it the Brazilians and resident foreigners in the Country the inviolability of the right to the life, the freedom, the equality, the security and the property.
When restricting the access of the citizens of good to the firearms, the call Statute of the Disarmament -- the proposal of the government -- attacks the right to the life: considering that the criminals will not deliver its weapons.
He enters the years of 1980 and 2000, the number of homicides went up of 12 for each 100 a thousand inhabitants for 27 for 100 a thousand inhabitants, having a superior increase the 200%
The research carried through with more than 1800 criminals showed that:
81% had affirmed that they look for to know before if the victim is? seted;
74% of the outlaws had affirmed to prevent to enter in residences where? they know to live armed citizens;
40% had said that they had left to commit crimes of that from fear? victim was seted;
57% had affirmed to fear more the armed citizen of whom the proper one? Policy;
56% had said not to approach victims who distrust to be? seted.
Legal weapons do not manufacture criminals.
Since 1994 the total of transports emitted in the RIO DE JANEIRO reaches more than a hundred little.
Or either, of the weapon the totality supply in hands of civilians can only be kept in the residences and the workstations.
Vendas of weapons for the civil market, in turn, comes if reducing to each year. Between 1996 and 2002, they had been vendidas not more of the one than 25 a thousand weapons.
Rio De Janeiro is if disarming, and crime increasing in the last years.
sh-2.05b # uname - a;id
uname - a;id
Linux kekaha.globalhost.com 2.4.20-8 #1 Thu Sea 13 17:54:28 EST 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
uid=0(root) gid=0(root)
sh-2.05b #
sh-2.05b #
SimienS - We are more than a group! we are the voice of a better world!
it's sarcastic dude
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Kai
You would think that they would have hacked a site with more traffic and some relation to the topic, like the HC inc or VPC sites.
Thread Starter
Wannabe yuppie
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 25,918
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI
Originally Posted by Reno Fett
do you have the original text? i'd like to read exactly what they were saying.
Thread Starter
Wannabe yuppie
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 25,918
Likes: 0
From: Madison, WI
Moderator
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 21,573
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by MrFatbooty