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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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Now I know, your all gonna say I should search the forums for the info I'm looking for. But I have, and a few facts a fuzzy to me..

I have a 97 EX Coupe, I'm looking to swap out the rear brakes for a disc set-up. I know I need the Rear Trailing Arms w/ disc & calipers, and e-brake cables from either a 94+ teg, or a 99-00 si. and the prop valve out of a 90+teg.. the ones marked 4040.. where im confused is the need to actually swap out the MC and the BB..
ive seen/heard it said that becuase its an EX i dont need to upgrade the MC or bb..
Do I need to swap the MC? the BB, Both?

I'm not worried to much abotu the difficulty. If it means the difference between a real mushy to the floor pedal and one that isnt. I'll do it.. but i wasnt/ am not sure if they're the same or of comperably size.
any input from anyone with this current setup or experience putting one in would be great. Thanks.

Also if theres anything im missing from that shopping list, feel free, to tell me..
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Old Sep 17, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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The 40/40 prop valve won't be much good to you. If you look on the firewall at your stock prop valve, it will look kind of like a flat curved piece with all the lines running out of one side (that's a bad description but it's hard to explain, just look behind the engine for something with a lot of hardlines coming out of it). The 40/40 valve looks more like a dogbone. You could use the 40/40 but you'd have to rebend a lot of line. You best bet would probably be the prop valve from an '99-'00 Si Civic. That car came with a 4 wheel disk setup and should have the same physically designed prop valve.

As for the MC, with an EX Civic, your's already comes stock with a 15/16" MC (at least my '98 EX has one). Most of the lower model Civic, which have smaller front disks and smaller rear drums have a 13/16" MC. With my '92 CX's 13/16" (which also had ~150k miles on it), it didn't push enough pressure to safelyl work with an Integra front disk setup (the Integra front setup is basically the same as an EX's). The pedal was almost to the floor before the brakes really started to bite (and I bleed the crap out of it, there was no air). I converted my CX to a 1" Integra ABS MC from an Integra GS-R but it wasn't a bolt in affair as I had to cut, rebend and reflare one of the lines because that year GS-R MC used a different sized fitting (I looked at someone's late model, 98-99 I'm guessing, GS-R and it has the same style fittings as a Civic, I don't know exactly what years are what though). The 15/16" MC is the same size as an non-ABS Integra uses with a 4 wheel disk setup though so it's more than sufficent and I probably wouldn't change it. If I had to do my hybrid's setup again, I probably would have just used and EX's 15/16" MC and saved the trouble.
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So the prop valve from a 99-00 Civic Si, and you think I can leave the Brake Booster stock? Thanks
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That would be my guess, I just left my rear disks on my '98 EX. If you know somebody with an Si, you can take a look at theirs and visually compare it to yours, but I'd be suprised if they're physically different shaped. You can also take a look at their MC and see what size it is (it's cast into one side of it). I would just leave the MC and booster alone, grab the prop valve if it looks like it will fit and go to town.
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