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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Uberdata... learn it, tune it, fix it, fix it, test software, fix it... LOVE IT.

If I had the cash and a tuner I'd go AEM EMS. I Standalone. But I don't and don't, so I'll be switching between the Emanage and Uber until I know what the hell I'm doing.
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Old Jul 14, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by catatonic
Uberdata... learn it, tune it, fix it, fix it, test software, fix it... LOVE IT.

If I had the cash and a tuner I'd go AEM EMS. I Standalone. But I don't and don't, so I'll be switching between the Emanage and Uber until I know what the hell I'm doing.
Yeah, you are so right. I would have done Hondata, but the price is insane and I like doing things myself, so uberdata is perfect for me. I may switch to Crome since it seems like a much more polished version of uberdata and there are many more options.

I personally hated the E-manage. All the splicing, crappy instructions, OBD2 learning around it, and constant CEL's just made me rip it out and sell it for the price I paid for it all.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 01:02 AM
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IMHO, i would go Hondata for the B series. I have it for the K and it's great. After learning Uberdata (which was very simple) and compared it to the Hondata software, it does not compare

I personally know the guys over at Hondata. Let's just say they are very smart

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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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No-one has mentioned NepTune! Neptune is much cheaper than Hondata and it, quite frankly, blows it out of the water. 1/2 the price, twice the features... you can't beat it.

http://www.hrtuning.com/index.php?page=neptune

Things like individual cylinder trims, precise ignition timing control, on-the-fly switchable maps, spray control, user-conmfigurable 2-step WITH anti-lag (teh hotness), IAT and ECT corrrection tables, the list goes on and on.
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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by servion
No-one has mentioned NepTune! Neptune is much cheaper than Hondata and it, quite frankly, blows it out of the water. 1/2 the price, twice the features... you can't beat it.

http://www.hrtuning.com/index.php?page=neptune

Things like individual cylinder trims, precise ignition timing control, on-the-fly switchable maps, spray control, user-conmfigurable 2-step WITH anti-lag (teh hotness), IAT and ECT corrrection tables, the list goes on and on.

What's the use if you cant download the software like you can for all the other tuning devices?

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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ArcblursxtypeS
What's the use if you cant download the software like you can for all the other tuning devices?

Mikey
Because NepTune requires no proprietary hardware. Nothing but a chipped honda ECU.

Its got many more features than Hondata (its works much better) and its cheaper: that's the point.
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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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so its cheaper to buy the chip, but they wont put the software out on the web?

Hell, even Hondata's K-manager software is free

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Old Jul 18, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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They won't put the software on the web because there is no specialized hardware required to tune with it. Hondata requires the blue box, and the k-pro requires hondata's own proprietary hardware. They can give the software out because it cannot be functionally used without the required hardware which is only available from hondata. Same with AEM, autronic, etc.

http://www.hrtuning.com/index.php?page=neptune

You're not buying a chip... you can buy the chip from moates (the uberdata kit)... like I said, there is no proprietary equipment. If you want to see how good it is, do some searching and talk to some users/dealers. Hop onto www.evans-tuning.com forum to see some more good info. I am a NepTune dealer, and I also tune Hondata... so from experience with both, I'll say that it walks all over hondata in features and price.

The fact is, 99% of people who want the ability to tune their own cars usually don't have any business doing so. No offense to the average user, but a novice engine tuner working on a full standalone is usually disasterous. There's more to tuning than just getting air/fuel ratios right and keeping timing below the knock threshold.

Stay tuned, in the short future there will be some serious ground-breaking developments for NepTune.... and currrent users will definitely not be left behind.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by servion
They won't put the software on the web because there is no specialized hardware required to tune with it. Hondata requires the blue box, and the k-pro requires hondata's own proprietary hardware. They can give the software out because it cannot be functionally used without the required hardware which is only available from hondata. Same with AEM, autronic, etc.

http://www.hrtuning.com/index.php?page=neptune

You're not buying a chip... you can buy the chip from moates (the uberdata kit)... like I said, there is no proprietary equipment. If you want to see how good it is, do some searching and talk to some users/dealers. Hop onto www.evans-tuning.com forum to see some more good info. I am a NepTune dealer, and I also tune Hondata... so from experience with both, I'll say that it walks all over hondata in features and price.

The fact is, 99% of people who want the ability to tune their own cars usually don't have any business doing so. No offense to the average user, but a novice engine tuner working on a full standalone is usually disasterous. There's more to tuning than just getting air/fuel ratios right and keeping timing below the knock threshold.

Stay tuned, in the short future there will be some serious ground-breaking developments for NepTune.... and currrent users will definitely not be left behind.
Not only for knock threshold, but for exhaust gas temperatures and proper fuel octane.

I know how to tune , you dont have to tell me what I need to know, unless you are a AEM or Hondata Rep, those guys know their stuff

Mikey
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Old Jul 24, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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i ordered the chips so i can go uberdata...im looking forward to tuning
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