Help me choose a HOnda civic...
it's my D in a B
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Have you ever driven one in a civic? An H22 has boatloads of usable torque compared to a k20, and considering it costs half as much (if not less), I think its a damn fine option. Its definitely not the best platform for building, but if you just want something stock, cheap and fast, it's the bee's knees 
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Yes, an engine swap is a lot easier (and a lot less potential to ruin a perfectly good motor) than building one.
Do a search (in the bar near to top of the page) in the hybrid forum for all the information about various swaps and how-tos. It's all been covered a thousand times.
But the basic run down for a b-series swap into a 5th gen civic is: motor, trans, ecu, wiring harness (not 100% necessary, but nice to have), shift linkage, motor mounts, axles. Research up before hand, and the swap can be done in a weekend. After you've done it once or twice, it can actually be done in a day
Make good friends with the "search" button.
Do a search (in the bar near to top of the page) in the hybrid forum for all the information about various swaps and how-tos. It's all been covered a thousand times.
But the basic run down for a b-series swap into a 5th gen civic is: motor, trans, ecu, wiring harness (not 100% necessary, but nice to have), shift linkage, motor mounts, axles. Research up before hand, and the swap can be done in a weekend. After you've done it once or twice, it can actually be done in a day
Make good friends with the "search" button.
it's my D in a B
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Well i went throught the forum and i can see that we have alots of DIY project. That look very useful and will come handy. I took a visits at the swapping forum and there isn't much there. I should start with b16 engine for now as a beginner. I'm waiting to see if the hoist will goes on sale. That will help removing an engine..
B16 is a perfectly good motor, but you might get bored with it after a while (I did
h: ). If you can afford it, I'd try and get a b18c as a starting point. That way you'll have a little more power to keep you satisfied for the time being, and more potential when you want to start modding it down the road.
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You can usually rent an engine hoist for pretty cheap (maybe $30 for a weekend).
B16 is a perfectly good motor, but you might get bored with it after a while (I didh: ). If you can afford it, I'd try and get a b18c as a starting point. That way you'll have a little more power to keep you satisfied for the time being, and more potential when you want to start modding it down the road.
B16 is a perfectly good motor, but you might get bored with it after a while (I did
h: ). If you can afford it, I'd try and get a b18c as a starting point. That way you'll have a little more power to keep you satisfied for the time being, and more potential when you want to start modding it down the road.
it's my D in a B
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B16A is definitely a fun little engine. It has 160ish horsepower and a 8200 redline, the only problem is it has very little torque, so if you want to go fast you have to drive it really hard (really high rpms). The b18c has more torque and 180ish hp and generally costs about $1000 USD more than the b16a. If that doesn't fit your budget, no worries... you'll still have fun with a b16a
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B16A is definitely a fun little engine. It has 160ish horsepower and a 8200 redline, the only problem is it has very little torque, so if you want to go fast you have to drive it really hard (really high rpms). The b18c has more torque and 180ish hp and generally costs about $1000 USD more than the b16a. If that doesn't fit your budget, no worries... you'll still have fun with a b16a
UHmm, I like to buy good stuff and not too cheap and i will look into that. 160 Hp is slow so i would get something a bit better to satisfy my need. Right now, I'm looking for civic because i don't have one right now. This will be a project vehicle for swapping, and audio systems. I might get either 5 or 6th generation...
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Have you ever driven one in a civic? An H22 has boatloads of usable torque compared to a k20, and considering it costs half as much (if not less), I think its a damn fine option. Its definitely not the best platform for building, but if you just want something stock, cheap and fast, it's the bee's knees
