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holly2000 07-16-2005 06:50 PM

alinment question
 
i'm a little slow but finely have my question in the right thread forum :D

frist timer, here we go i have a 2000 SI i'm installing KONI YELLOW shocks , ground controls , INGALLS rear shim kit , will drop it "1 3/4 all around . my question is when i take it in for a 4 wheel alinment do i tell them to set it at [O-toe] on all 4 wheels and set the camber to shock setting or not?
i thought i would ask the experts i want to do i right.
thanks mark

racerdave 07-16-2005 07:27 PM

Not sure on the toe, but you will want a small amount of camber in the rear," makes sharp turns at high speed more comfortable".

CivicSiRacer 07-17-2005 02:03 AM

Well for best tire wear I always recommend 0 toe front and back. But you only have a shim kit so you cannot adjust the camber unless you can add more shims.

I say the best setup for tire wear and good handling is 0 toe front/back about -2 negative camber front and about -1.5-2.0 negative camber out back. Lower the car about 2" from stock.

honda guy 07-17-2005 06:29 AM

Set the toe at positive. .03 is good. This will help the car track straighter than setting it @ 0.0. And it won't wear the tire.

racerdave 07-17-2005 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by honda guy
Set the toe at positive. .03 is good. This will help the car track straighter than setting it @ 0.0. And it won't wear the tire.

Toe-in is a term used to specify the amount (in fractions of an inch) that the front wheels are closer together in front that at the rear, when measured at hub height. Precision testing equipment and careful measurement and correction will prevent any slipping or scuffing action between the tires and the road.

If toe-in is incorrect, the tires will be dragged along the road, scuffing and featheredging the treadribs. Changes in road or load conditions will affect more than one steering angle, and uneven tread wear patterns will result. Changes in road or load conditions will affect more than one steering angle, and uneven tread wear patterns will result. Also, toe-in will change when other angular adjustments are made. Because of this, front wheel toe-in should be measured first and uneven tread wear patterns corrected last on all wheel alignment jobs. Toe-out Tread Wear

It is obvious that driving conditions make it impossible to keep the front wheels parallel at all times. Regardless of how accurately the front wheels are positioned for straight ahead driving, they could be out of their correct relative positions on turns. Considering that the outside wheel is approximately five feet farther away from the point about which the car is turning, it must turn at a lesser angle and travel in a greater circle than the inside wheel. This condition is called toe-out turns, which means that each front wheel requires a separate turning radius to keep the inside tire from slipping and scuffing on turns. Toe-out turns is the relationship between the front wheels which allows them to turn about a common center. To accomplish this, the steering arms are designed to angle several degrees inside of the parallel position. The exact amount depends on the tread and wheelbase of the car and on the arrangement of the steering control linkage. Unless toe-out is aligned correctly, the tires will have a scrubbing action on the road surface. This will produce a featheredge on the outer edges of the tread ribs.


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