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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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I have got two swaps that I have to do.

1) The car is a 97 civic ex vtec. I believe the engine model is d16y8. motor went bad so I need to swap the motor for another one (same model). Should I take it to a shop or do it myself? my and my buddy were hoping it would be an easy in and out because its the same model, but before I do it, any suggestions or advice would be appriciated. And also do you know a good motor dealer to buy d series engines that offers a warranty with the motor?

2) The second is a B16a2 coming out of a 99 civic si going into my 97 dx. This one is the whole swap, tranny and all. Wondering how tough this one will be or if I should just take it to the local shop to do it (who is good at swaps).
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 06:31 PM
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the first one would be pretty straight forward, the second would be a little tougher though, but still not entirely difficult. there are manuals that you could buy to give you detailed installations. having a shop do it for you could be good and bad. if you do it yourself you'll understand ur car better and it would be fun. but if you had a shop do it, you have papers to say it was a perfessional installation and if you ever sell it, that could be an issue-not to mention a shop will charge anywhere from $500-1000 bux to install ur motor-just out of curiousity, why put another SOHC in the 97 civic, i would just put a b16 in that as well or even better a b18. but these are just my opinions and what i would do
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 06:36 PM
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*not a fan of d-series swaps*
if you got a d-series then yea... run with it...

but if you're gonna spend the money for a new engine... swap in a b16 or b18 like raiden said... swapping an engine is fun stuff... why have a shop do it?

totally do-able yourself...

engine hoist or cherry picker whatever you wanna call it... you can even rent em i think... thats all you need... unless you wanna drop the engine out the bottom... can do that too, but its gonna require a lift..
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Old Nov 11, 2003 | 06:38 PM
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If you get the b16 make sure to get all the si mounts if you can, even though some are the same. Do you know the car the motor is coming out of? Get the wiring harness too if you can, if you cant your wiring harness should be plug and play. The b series swap is pretty straight forward.
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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Just get a full night's sleep before you do all the wiring....
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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the D to D will be/should be an easy swap. if its just the engine for engine then I will not take long and the harness will stay in. Very straight forward

The other is a little bit more difficult and time consuming. <<Not that it's very difficult but you might need somemore tools to complete the swap. As suggested>make sure you have all the extras you will need before you attempt it. (rear mount from 99-00 or CRV 94-00, various hoses, etc...) TIME: If your doing it yourself I hope your not on the time budget .
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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The reason for the D series swap is because I should be getting a civic where the motor went bad for pretty cheap. I would just need to replace the motor and sell it as stock. (make some quick $$).

Is disconnecting it and connecting it to the transmission tough?

and for my B16a2 swap I was told it is easier to connect the new tranny and motor outside the car and drop them both in at the same time.
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by donkiman
and for my B16a2 swap I was told it is easier to connect the new tranny and motor outside the car and drop them both in at the same time.
definetly the least hassle..
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 07:11 AM
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95dx has it correct. Def easier to connect the tranny/casing before you install the motor. :thumbup:

By disconnecting the tranny what do yo mean?? Is the tranny coming seperately from the motor itself?? I souldn't if your getting the full meal deal
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by alllooksnnogo
95dx has it correct. Def easier to connect the tranny/casing before you install the motor. :thumbup:

By disconnecting the tranny what do yo mean?? Is the tranny coming seperately from the motor itself?? I souldn't if your getting the full meal deal
yea... most swaps that you would buy off of HMotorsOnline, JDM Inc, etc will have everything connected... you're work will be wiring and mounting... you're not gonna have to connect the head to the block, tranny to motor, none of that hard work...

just drop in, wire, go... :thumbup:
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