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    Free Race rubber

    Hey a tip for anyone running 13's or 14's, something I learned at the June sprints. Those stupid little formula Fords won't run the same tires more than once and they just toss em out. We went to the hoosier tent and asked what they were going to do with em, of course they were just going to take em back to hq for meltin down. They said we could have whatever we want.

    and have we did:





    We also got some hankooks from them too for the spec racer. The wonderful thing about that is hankook actually pays money for placement, (and a lot), if you're running their tires. Not the faster tire, but if I can run and get $400 in contigency money, or i can run and get nothing, what am I going to do?!
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    badass. I think you coulda fit a few more on there though!

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    well yeah i could have, but they were for a friend of mine with a midget, so he only needed 4. i brought 2 extra cuz they all looked so nice, and 4 for the spec racer. no 16s otherwise it would have been like my birthday. In c stock of course i have to run my stock sized 16" wheels...race rubber aint close to cheap in that.

    i had forgot the motorcycle straps i usually use for hauling tires too so i used electrical tape. I only live like 35 mins from road america now though so um..it was fine. promise.
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    there is a reason why they throw them out. after they've gone through a race they are hard as balls and don't grip nearly as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DakarM
    there is a reason why they throw them out. after they've gone through a race they are hard as balls and don't grip nearly as well.
    Agreed. They are probably harder than super balls. Unless you put some Traction V on them, but that is a pain to use.
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    theyre fine for amateur events.
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    Damn I would love to run across some free 13's

    Im sure they are the R3S04's right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fujiwara Takumi
    theyre fine for amateur events.

    they probably grip less than your street rubber. but hey you said you weren't going to use them so what do you care right and who cares of the voice of experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DakarM
    they probably grip less than your street rubber. but hey you said you weren't going to use them so what do you care right and who cares of the voice of experience.
    I don't agree with that statement, but ultimately it's not my decision. I gifted the tires to a very experienced autocross, (i would venture to guess more so than you me and louie combined) who was ecstatic.
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    Actually the Road Race compound is supposed to resist heat than the autocross compound in the Hoosier R3S03/A3S04. But still also think that street tires would be stickier than those heat cycled tires you got.

    Street tires are made of a compound that will stay pliable longer than R tires. The oils in the tires do not evaporate as quickly because they have longer tread life. I just sold a set of VictorRacers for $25 and they were 4 years old. Those were hard as super balls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CivicSiRacer
    Actually the Road Race compound is supposed to resist heat than the autocross compound in the Hoosier R3S03/A3S04. But still also think that street tires would be stickier than those heat cycled tires you got.

    Street tires are made of a compound that will stay pliable longer than R tires. The oils in the tires do not evaporate as quickly because they have longer tread life. I just sold a set of VictorRacers for $25 and they were 4 years old. Those were hard as super balls.

    Right which makes a lot of sense, since these guys are on the track for 30-45mins going balls out. But that is exactly what makes them hard as balls and not as sticky as street rubber that has several autox on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DakarM
    Right which makes a lot of sense, since these guys are on the track for 30-45mins going balls out. But that is exactly what makes them hard as balls and not as sticky as street rubber that has several autox on them.
    And autocrossing is not as abusive in some aspects on tires as road racing. Autocrossing you are cornering for about 5-10 seconds maybe? Road racing you are cornering for twice as much as twice the speed with more forces acting upon the car than an autocross car.

    I know my autocross pressures go up about 2-5 psi. When I did a track day my tires went up 10-15psi on one session.
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    i just pit crewed last weekend for a 944 cup race team and their tire pressures were up 8-10 psi on the left side while only 5-6 psi on the right side as summit point is a clockwise track...we wound up lowering pressure of cold tires on the left to have more even handling throughout the race
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaje
    i just pit crewed last weekend for a 944 cup race team and their tire pressures were up 8-10 psi on the left side while only 5-6 psi on the right side as summit point is a clockwise track...we wound up lowering pressure of cold tires on the left to have more even handling throughout the race
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    Quote Originally Posted by Solracer
    And you didn't come and say hi! bah!
    didn't even know you were there...where were you pitted at?...i'm assuming by the HC guys...i did notice 2 sweet NSXs near the grid

    i'll be at summit for the september and october 944 Cup races too (www.944cup.com for a schedule)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaje
    didn't even know you were there...where were you pitted at?...i'm assuming by the HC guys...i did notice 2 sweet NSXs near the grid

    i'll be at summit for the september and october 944 Cup races too (www.944cup.com for a schedule)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solracer
    ... Read Sig You heard me all day saturday and part of sunday... I will not be at anymore summit races... 75$ is gas to get there and back is a bit much. I will be a vir in 2 weeks.
    i normally have signatures turned off...i'm not going to make it to VIR that week...and summit is about 1 hour from me so it's my home track
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