Engine Timing a Civic Without Timing Marks
08-08-2003, 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by 1stGenCRXer
There is a cast web on the block right around the area where the timing belt cover 0 mark would be. It's monsoon weather here at the moment, but I can get you a picture tomorrow if necessary.
As for the timing marks on the pulley, I believe there are three tiny little ticks, with the center being 0. You just have to look real close.
There is a cast web on the block right around the area where the timing belt cover 0 mark would be. It's monsoon weather here at the moment, but I can get you a picture tomorrow if necessary.
As for the timing marks on the pulley, I believe there are three tiny little ticks, with the center being 0. You just have to look real close.
08-10-2003, 12:25 AM
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I reviewed my Haynes Service Manual for the 1987 Honda Civic Hatchback DX and referred to the VECI Label on the Honda itself and discovered that they both do not indicate the location of the pointer on the timing belt cover and the locations of the four notches on the crankshaft pulley, nor do they describe the colors and the degree value of every color of these notches. I am only speculating about this however these informations might be available in a Helm Service Manual for this car that I suspect Gasoline Fumes used in his entry in this thread (or was that Honda Motor's huge engine illustration that he entered in here? Tsk, tsk, I could read his entry even when I'm in our back yard. Makes you think if he really wants to help in here).
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08-10-2003, 11:45 AM
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Gasoline Fumes when you post a picture that big it just comes out all chunky and crap.
But anyway here is what he posted but in a reasonable size...
But anyway here is what he posted but in a reasonable size...
08-10-2003, 10:42 PM
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Sorry about the image size, I'm lazy. 
The timing pointer is molded into the plastic belt cover. The color of the marks on the pulley doesn't really matter, the paint won't be there any more. There are four marks, three are close together and the fourth is alone. You want the timing on the center of the three marks. The two outer marks are +/- 2 degrees. You might need to use a your fingernail to feel the marks.
The timing pointer is molded into the plastic belt cover. The color of the marks on the pulley doesn't really matter, the paint won't be there any more. There are four marks, three are close together and the fourth is alone. You want the timing on the center of the three marks. The two outer marks are +/- 2 degrees. You might need to use a your fingernail to feel the marks.
08-10-2003, 10:48 PM
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Might it be not a bad idea to perhaps take off the crank pulley and notch the 3 marks back in with a dremel or something? Or is the balance of the pulley so exact that that would mess it up?
08-11-2003, 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by FourthGenHatch
Might it be not a bad idea to perhaps take off the crank pulley and notch the 3 marks back in with a dremel or something? Or is the balance of the pulley so exact that that would mess it up?
Might it be not a bad idea to perhaps take off the crank pulley and notch the 3 marks back in with a dremel or something? Or is the balance of the pulley so exact that that would mess it up?
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08-11-2003, 09:16 PM
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Making the notches too deep can cause a mini saw-tooth edge that can wear on the v-belt.
The only thing I do is add a touch of paint in there. I don't put a timing light on my engine all that often, so it's not a huge deal.
The only thing I do is add a touch of paint in there. I don't put a timing light on my engine all that often, so it's not a huge deal.
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08-11-2003, 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by onthekeyboard
No, I do not believe that enlarging these three notches on the pulley will create rotational problems to it. In fact, that is what I intend to perform on my pulley however not at the present time but during the replacement of this engine's timing belt. In this way, I will not be performing the same work twice, that of removing the pulley for the notch enlargement and removing it again later for the timining belt replacement. Anyway, this Honda's old timing belt is due for replacement not a long time from now. I will only use a triangular file because I don't have a Dremel tool. If the file can't cut it, I might use a hacksaw with a fine-toothed blade for cutting steel.
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No, I do not believe that enlarging these three notches on the pulley will create rotational problems to it. In fact, that is what I intend to perform on my pulley however not at the present time but during the replacement of this engine's timing belt. In this way, I will not be performing the same work twice, that of removing the pulley for the notch enlargement and removing it again later for the timining belt replacement. Anyway, this Honda's old timing belt is due for replacement not a long time from now. I will only use a triangular file because I don't have a Dremel tool. If the file can't cut it, I might use a hacksaw with a fine-toothed blade for cutting steel.
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